Re: [Discuss-sudbury-model] The Phantom of ADD/ADHD

From: monamie alone <>
Date: Sat Feb 25 19:33:00 2006

When I was very young I was chastised for my "inability" to focus. I struggled to please both my parents and teachers, but I was never interested in "circle time" or, with age, just remaining seated for a lesson. I would get up and wander to the fish tank and once I was in high school I would ask for the bathroom pass in almost every class, almost everyday. I was not interested in school, and I had no teachers willing to focus on my needs as a learning individual, so I found no reason to focus on them.
  I have always been an impulsive person. I happily continue to be in adulthood. But this has generated the label of ADD. My struggle is that I have never thought of my choice of attentions and focus to have deficits, they are my own choices so how could they be wrong? Does everyone who strays from a educational mainstreaming norm have a disorder? I pleaded with teachers to understand that I did not learn the way they were teaching, but they were unresponsive and labeled me a distraction to the classroom.
  I believe this categorizing and medicating of young people (and now adults and even pets) has a grave potential to stifle some of the most creative and exploratory minds of these past, recent, and future generations.
  I have just recently come to know of the Sudbury model of schooling in my own search to educate. I would be curious to find out how labels like ADD and OCD etc. are viewed within this method.
  With an inquisitive attention,

Tay Arrow Sherman <> wrote:
  I don't know which issues Dr. Hughes had in mind, but I am supposedly
"ADD", and I also have gluten intolerance. I wonder if they are
related...? The ADD diagnosis came about ten years prior to the gi
diagnosis. A lot of people have linked certain types of autism to a
particular reaction to casein and gluten, and for some people with
autism, following a gf/cf diet is supposedly very helpful in terms of
functionality. Gluten and casein are the proteins in wheat/barley/rye
and in milk products, respectively. It seems like intolerance to
certain sources of protein can interfere with brain function. I know
that my attention span and memory improved drastically when I quit
eating the foods I could not tolerate. I also know that most food
intolerance is very, very hard to diagnose.

On 24 Feb, 2006, at 10.56, cheryl huff wrote:

> Can you tell me exactly what are the children's diet issues you
> mention?
> cheryl huff
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Dr. Evan Hughes
>> To:
>> Sent: 2/24/2006 12:11:24 AM
>> Subject: [Discuss-sudbury-model] The Phantom of ADD/ADHD
>> Rich, I have to both agree and disagree with you.
>> Yes, I agree with the sentiment that throwing out cultural
>> norms can be stand offish and it is perhaps a trait of mine to jump
>> in to battle (intellectual ones anyway.) There are better ways I
>> admit.
>> At the same time I have issues with admitting to seeing
>> ADD/ADHD as anything but a normal adaptive response to one of the
>> three influences I mentioned (Diet, environment and subluxation of
>> the cervical spine.)
>> If I remember correctly the DSM-IV does not make attempts to
>> classify where the disorders came from. From this idea, could you not
>> see hunger as disease? How about thirst? You could take drugs to stop
>> those things, but that would be stupid. I feel the same way about
>> cough medicine. Only someone who doesn't understand physiology would
>> give cough medicine to a child (It is a body resp! onse working for
>> you, not a disease trying to hurt you!) As in all things, there are
>> exceptions, but I've never seen them myself, and I've seen lots of
>> cough medicine handed out.
>> And speaking of exceptions, I have never encountered a child,
>> patient, peer or student who had ADD/ADHD like symptoms who also
>> didn't have an obvious external cause associated. Granted I am not a
>> psychologist, however I've been around in educational circles and
>> seen the patterns. I say obvious, which does not imply that I knew
>> how to help that person... Or that they even wanted help for them
>> self (Or their children.) That's for a good physiologist or educator
>> to do anyway.
>> If the diet is off, change it. If the neck is subluxated,
>> adjust it. If there is brain damage, adapt to it. All of these
>> things are empowering ways to see a child in distress.
>> Once the label of ADD goes on a child IT NEVER C! OMES OFF
>> THAT CHILD. "oops, you where miss diagnosed" won't do it.
>> By attacking the concept of the diagnosis it automatically
>> frees the mind to the next step. "well, if my kid doesn't have ADD,
>> what is happening then!?" and you should see the children's faces
>> when I talk about this stuff. God they love it. Eat it up in fact!
>> It's like their being freed from prison.
>> Rich, I think we're on the same page, I'm just looking to take
>> it a step further in terms of how people see the body/mind.
>> There is a great saying: "You can't study poor people to become
>> rich. you can't study uneducated to become educated. You can't study
>> large people to become slender and You can't study sick people to be
>> healthy."
>> Enough with the diagnosis already. Lets start looking at
>> the HEALTH of Children and stop even admitting that medicine ! has
>> THE answer. It is a prospective only, and in our society today that
>> prospective has failed. We need a new one.
>> Thoughts?
>> Evan



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