Re: [Discuss-sudbury-model] Slave analogy for public schools.

From: Mimsy Sadofsky <mimsys_at_comcast.net>
Date: Sun Oct 9 13:18:00 2005

Have almost nothing to add to this discussion. Well, make that
nothing. BUT, Tay is a she, not a he.
Mimsy

On Oct 9, 2005, at 9:40 AM, Madeleine Hesselink wrote:

> Thank you Tay. Beautifully said.
>
> Mado
> --- Tay Arrow Sherman <tay_at_anatomyofhope.net> wrote:
>
>>
>> All this discussion about this particular analogy
>> has given me pause. I
>> mean, the way many of us talk about public schools
>> as being places
>> where kids are enslaved.
>>
>> Like, the word "holocaust" has been around since at
>> least 1526 and
>> means "a sacrifice wholly consumed by fire", but
>> when you hear it, you
>> immediately think of The Holocaust. I think the same
>> is true for the
>> word "slavery" in the US, I mean, it makes us think
>> of racism and the
>> Civil War and all this stuff that freaks everyone
>> out a lot, makes
>> everyone feel unhappy in some direction or another.
>> So it's not a great
>> analogy, I think. It ends up being very aggressive,
>> and the people
>> involved in the discourse end up picking at the
>> analogy, which subverts
>> an ideological argument that should be liberating
>> into a semantic one
>> that is sort of nerve-wracking and ultimately at
>> least 90% pointless.
>>
>> Also, if you want to tell someone that your child's
>> chosen way of
>> learning and exploring beats public school (or
>> whatever school) to a
>> pulp, I think it works better to tell them what is
>> good about your
>> child's choice than what is bad about what they may
>> have chosen for
>> their kid.
>>
>> Non-consensual aspects are present in many schools,
>> and ageism is real.
>> There is a lot of stupid stuff going on in
>> education. I think that the
>> dominant methods of "schooling" are crappy enough
>> that we can take them
>> apart by talking about what they are, without having
>> to resort to
>> talking about what they are *like*. And I think that
>> unschooling,
>> homeschooling, and Sudbury-model schools are all
>> awesome enough that we
>> can talk about how awesome they are and why, without
>> having to resort
>> to talkin' trash.
>>
>> -Tay
>>
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>>
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