RE: [Discuss-sudbury-model] Slave analogy for public schools.

From: cheryl huff <>
Date: Sun Oct 9 08:03:00 2005

A deep thank you to you, Tay, for being a beacon in what had become, to me,
a quagmire. I agree that labeling of anything is never useful, least of
all in profitable discourse. Let us move ahead - everyone do tell me what
is good about Sudbury - I already know what is bad about my son's school
for him because I know him. All best wishes to you -

cheryl huff

> [Original Message]
> From: Tay Arrow Sherman <>
> To: <>
> Date: 10/9/2005 7:21:11 AM
> Subject: [Discuss-sudbury-model] Slave analogy for public schools.
> All this discussion about this particular analogy has given me pause. I
> mean, the way many of us talk about public schools as being places
> where kids are enslaved.
> Like, the word "holocaust" has been around since at least 1526 and
> means "a sacrifice wholly consumed by fire", but when you hear it, you
> immediately think of The Holocaust. I think the same is true for the
> word "slavery" in the US, I mean, it makes us think of racism and the
> Civil War and all this stuff that freaks everyone out a lot, makes
> everyone feel unhappy in some direction or another. So it's not a great
> analogy, I think. It ends up being very aggressive, and the people
> involved in the discourse end up picking at the analogy, which subverts
> an ideological argument that should be liberating into a semantic one
> that is sort of nerve-wracking and ultimately at least 90% pointless.
> Also, if you want to tell someone that your child's chosen way of
> learning and exploring beats public school (or whatever school) to a
> pulp, I think it works better to tell them what is good about your
> child's choice than what is bad about what they may have chosen for
> their kid.
> Non-consensual aspects are present in many schools, and ageism is real.
> There is a lot of stupid stuff going on in education. I think that the
> dominant methods of "schooling" are crappy enough that we can take them
> apart by talking about what they are, without having to resort to
> talking about what they are *like*. And I think that unschooling,
> homeschooling, and Sudbury-model schools are all awesome enough that we
> can talk about how awesome they are and why, without having to resort
> to talkin' trash.
> -Tay
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