RE: [Discuss-sudbury-model] Re: teaching and staff salaries

From: Lisa Crocker <>
Date: Tue Apr 5 20:28:00 2005

Hi Liz,
I am lucky in that the first manifestation of my school will be a 3 day
homeschool program, and so far the three people who have said they would
like to be staff are stay-at-home moms who happen to have teaching degrees
and experience in alternative education, and are not looking to this to
support their family. Still, if possible, I think it best to at least start
the budget with a wage that you see happening when things are ideal, enough
students, enough fundraising that is successful, etc. I think this should
be the starting off point, and then go from there and get creative if there
are not yet enough students to to cover costs yet, but the business plan
needs to work with a certain goal for enrollment and a good wage for staff.
This is why I was asking about salaries, trying to get a sense of what
teachers/mentors/other staff are getting for salaries, and if "teachers" get
more than "staff" - meaning someone without a teaching degree.

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>Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 07:24:06 -0700 (PDT)
>From: Marc Kivel <>
>Subject: Re: [Discuss-sudbury-model] teaching and staff salaries
>In re salaries...if you're going to have a full time
>staff (30 contact hours per week or whatever you feel constitutes
>"fulltime" employment), I think there's an ethical obligation to pay a
>liveable wage. Assuming a 175 day school year and 6 hrs per day of
>service, that's 1,040 service hours over ten months. At $17.50
>per hour that is $18,200 for ten months. Don't forget
>the employers contribution to Social Security and
>Medicare for your staff.
>While this may or may not be a livable wage for a head
>of family with dependents, it could be an outstanding
>salary for a) a retiree on fixed income, b) a graduate student, c) a
>person who is supplementing another spouse or partner's greater
>earnings, or d) a person who is looking for experience before opening
>their own school.

In other words, you can't really teach in this school _and_ support
yourself in a sustainable way unless you're: really young and still
supported by parents (an assumption I'm making about your fictional
graduate student who can afford not only to pursue an advanced degree but
also to work for that little), really old and supported by your retirement
savings, a trust-fund baby who can work for that little before starting
your own school (with all the start-up capital that will require), or
married and sponging off your spouse for a while.

Doesn't that rule out a lot of potential staff members?


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