Re: [Discuss-sudbury-model] ORGANIZE!

From: Karen Locke <>
Date: Thu Mar 31 07:21:00 2005

I liked this list of points. However, I think rather than black/white, people "get it " or they don't, there are gradations of "getting it".

I work at a project-based school. The teachers I work with get some of it. They realize how bad regular schools are, not realizing how boring classes are, that students need to explore things that interest them. However, the don't get that socializing is educational, that finding and meeting your own needs is educational.

I'm on a list for Nonviolent communication. Those folks are learning about communication to meet needs. most of them get that children have needs. But in schooling areas, those needs can't include freedom of association, or thought, etc.

I think we all have our blind areas. I obviously don't recognize mine.

I think "demonstration schools" are a good idea and necessary. Even then, I think people's concepts of what's possible will broaden gradually. At least that's been my experience. Most people can only widen their minds a little bit at a time.

I went to a natural childbirth class one time where the speaker said that it depended on people's backgrounds as to what option the doctors would recommend. For those who had traditional backgrounds they didn't recommend home birthing. It was too far away from what they knew. It made for nervousness, fear, etc. They would recommend something a little bit closer to their experience.

I ran an "unschool" based loosely on SVS at one time. Many parents valiantly tried to support the group, but it was impossible in the end. One parent had gone to West Point! It was just to far to stretch.

Just some early morning ramblings :)

  ----- Original Message -----
  Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 10:31 PM
  Subject: [Discuss-sudbury-model] ORGANIZE!

  Dear Alan,

  One point is this:

  If there are no serious governmental or social or religious or spiritual or cultural institutions where children are invited to become full partners and if, in all the educational institutions, there are only these Sudbury schools available where a child can show up and be who they are then, for me, these Sudbury schools, and the people who understand them, become extremely important.

  Another point is this:

  Consider that we do not even know how someone comes to see a child as a full human being. For example, Mr Sizer has certainly looked at children and schools for a very long time. His best understanding is that "Leaving kids on their own tends to flatten the slope of their improvement." His basic view is that the child is an "improver". It is a stunningly pervasive view.

  And then the above point leads to this:

  I like Dan Greenburg's decription of when folks come to Sudbury and he says "If they see it, they see it and if they don't, they don't". It speaks to an epiphany moment, and "ah ha" experience. But, if this is so, it also indicates that the best organizing startegy that we have at present is to build these institutions by almost any means possible, by gathering together enough money and organizing effort and making them happen. And wait to see if more people can "see it".

  Which leads to these points:

  Considering the above, it appears that, worldwide, there may be, at present, a rather small set of folks, that have actually seen a child show up and be present in their own lives. For those of us organizing this stuff day and night, this small set of folks, who could actually understand what we are saying, who could actually organize these schools themselves and thus turn and provide the opportunity for others to "see it", are simply precious. Extremely valuable.

  The final point is:

  You are valuable.

  Bill Richardson

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