RE: [Discuss-sudbury-model] Sudbury Model outside schools

From: Don Yates <>
Date: Mon Nov 15 11:11:01 2004

Hi Fred -

I have been working on ideas along these lines for some time. You might
find interesting an article we wrote that was published in the SVS Journal.
You can find it at

On that site you can also find other material bearing on the subject. Some
companies have moved some along this line, but SVS as an organization [not a
school] is the only one I know of that has fulfilled the promise of the
route. Probably the closest thing to it in the business world is
self-managed work teams. Another article you might like to read you can
find at

W.L. Gore Associates has an interesting culture along these lines, although
not all the way as you seem to want to go. Check them out at

Still another company part way there is St Lukes advertising agency in
London. You can read about them at:

Finally, Ricardo Semler has done some very interesting things at Semco. He
has two books out: "Maverick" and "The Seven-Day Weekend - Changing the way
work works". The latter is more recent and includes more information.
Semco's url is: Once you get by the opening introduction [in
Portuguese] the home page comes up, and you get an English version by
clicking on the small flag to the lower right. The site is in three

Don Yates

-----Original Message-----
[] On Behalf Of Ann Ide
Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2004 6:24 PM
Subject: Re: [Discuss-sudbury-model] Sudbury Model outside schools


I'm no expert; but I am aware that there are democratically run businesses.
I really enjoyed reading Maverick, by Ricardo Semlar. I think he is
considered a maverick in democratically run businesses. This book is his
story of turning his family owned corporation into a democratically run
business. He has a newer book out this year; but I can't remember the name.
I'm sure it would be on Ricardo has also founded a version of a
democratically run school in Brazil, the Lumier school. He is getting a lot
of government support to transition more public schools than he can handle
into schools like the Lumier school.

Anyway, start with Maverick. Good luck.

Ann Ide
parent at Sudbury Valley School
----- Original Message -----
From: "Frederick W. Schueler" <>
To: <>
Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2004 12:10 AM
Subject: [Discuss-sudbury-model] Sudbury Model outside schools

> Sudburyiers:
> Does anyone have experience importing the Sudbury model into non-school
> organizations? We started a regional natural history museum
> which we were subsequently asked to leave, apparently
> because of our promotion of democratic governance - "founded, in part,
> in reaction to the damage done to Canada's national museums through the
> management practices predominating in the 1980's and early 1990's.
> Accordingly founded on the belief that in a museum, every
> worker has a unique combination of knowledge and skills, and all can
> contribute collectively to solving a wide range of problems. Deference
> is granted relative to the problem under consideration and the abilities
> that each brings to it, with shifting patterns of leadership in
> different situations..." see -
> We're now approaching a time when reform of this hierarchical model may
> be possible, and I wonder if anyone has experience in explicitly
> importing the Sudbury Model of governance into such a situation?
> fred.
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