RE: [Discuss-sudbury-model] RE: Discuss-sudbury-model digest, Vol 1 #199 - 7 msgs

From: Vera Wagemans <vera-wagemans_at_tiscalinet.be>
Date: Thu Sep 30 12:27:00 2004

Hi corinna,

have you looked on other places than this list?
You might want to put an add somewhere to get in contact with people who
share similar ideas. That is what somebody did here in Belgium 1,5 years ago
in a magazine that is distributed to all parents of schoolgoing children.
About 15 people showed up, which lead to 3 start-up-groups, planning to
start september 1st 2005.

good luck!
Vera
'De Vlinder' Sudbury School Gent
www.sudbury.be

> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:discuss-sudbury-model-admin_at_sudval.org]On Behalf Of corrina
> gordon
> Sent: donderdag 30 september 2004 15:45
> To: discuss-sudbury-model_at_sudval.org
> Subject: [Discuss-sudbury-model] RE: Discuss-sudbury-model digest, Vol 1
> #199 - 7 msgs
>
>
> Thanks, Jennifer, for the suggestion, but I have visited Summerhill and
> wasn't overly impressed. Having read a fair bit on Summerhill and Sudbury
> Valley, I would agree with Vera that there is quite a difference
> between the
> two models.
>
> Still waiting for people in England to step forward and make themselves
> known!.... Thanks for the interest so far!
>
> With love,
> Corrina
>
>
>
>
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> > 1. interest in England? (corrina gordon)
> > 2. interest in England? (/Scotland?) (Regina Leeb)
> > 3. Re: interest in England? (Mike Weimann)
> > 4. Re: interest in England? (Carol Hughes)
> > 5. Re: interest in England? (/Scotland?) (Jennifer Blair)
> > 6. RE: parenting teens (Geert Wester)
> > 7. RE: interest in England? (/Scotland?) (Vera Wagemans)
> >
> >--__--__--
> >
> >Message: 1
> >From: "corrina gordon" <corrinagordon_at_hotmail.com>
> >To: discuss-sudbury-model_at_sudval.org
> >Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 16:29:49 +0100
> >Subject: [Discuss-sudbury-model] interest in England?
> >Reply-To: discuss-sudbury-model_at_sudval.org
> >
> >Hi to all
> >
> >Are any of you based in England and/or wanting to set up a Sudbury-based
> >model here?
> >
> >I'm teaching in the English state system now and my heart is in
> the Sudbury
> >model. I'm interested in either setting up a one-off school or just going
> >the whole hog and Sudburyifying the English system. Where are all you
> >English people who have this same yearning and the energy to
> start kicking
> >some ass!?? Surely better late than never.... ;0)
> >
> >Love to all,
> >Corrina
> >
> >
> >
> >--__--__--
> >
> >Message: 2
> >Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 19:04:14 +0200
> >From: "Regina Leeb" <RichLeeb_at_web.de>
> >To: discuss-sudbury-model_at_sudval.org
> >Organization: http://freemail.web.de/
> >Subject: [Discuss-sudbury-model] interest in England? (/Scotland?)
> >Reply-To: discuss-sudbury-model_at_sudval.org
> >
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> >style='padding:5px;'><P>discuss-sudbury-model_at_sudval.org schrieb am
> >29.09.04 18:11:38:<BR><BR>Hi to all<BR><BR>Are any of you based
> in England
> >and/or wanting to set up a Sudbury-based <BR>model here?<BR><BR>I'm
> >teaching in the English state system now and my heart is in the Sudbury
> ><BR>model. I'm interested in either setting up a one-off school or just
> >going <BR>the whole hog and Sudburyifying the English system.
> Where are all
> >you <BR>English people who have this same yearning and the
> energy to start
> >kicking <BR>some ass!?? Surely better late than never....
> ;0)<BR><BR>Love
> >to all,<BR>Corrina<BR><BR><BR></P><P>Hey
> Corrina,</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>I am
> >not really an 'English person', but based in the UK for the
> moment anyway
> >(Scotland, that is). I've spent a year&nbsp;at the Australian Sudbury!
> > School, but am originally from Germany. At the moment I am studying
> >conservation biology at the university of Aberdeen. I just wanted you to
> >have my email adress in case you do get some people to meet sometime and
> >want to invite me along ;-) No seriously, it might be
> interesting for any
> >of us and I just <EM>love</EM> getting in touch with other Sudbury
> >people!</P><P>Good luck to
> >you,</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>Greetz,</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>Regina
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> >
> >Message: 3
> >Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 13:37:18 -0400
> >From: Mike Weimann <mike.weimann_at_gmx.net>
> >Organization: South Side Settlement Hose Columbus, Ohio
> >To: discuss-sudbury-model_at_sudval.org
> >Subject: Re: [Discuss-sudbury-model] interest in England?
> >Reply-To: discuss-sudbury-model_at_sudval.org
> >
> >Hello,
> >
> >my name is Mike Weimann, I'm new on this listserve. I'm involved in the
> >process of starting a Sudbury School in Berlin, Germany.
> >-> http://sudbury.de
> >
> >To get some more information about my background, please check the
> >website of our Berlin youth group as well, you find many links related
> >to alternative child uprearing and school issues.
> >-> http://kraetzae.de (some information in English available)
> >
> >I want to tell you, Corrina, (and by the way everybody else) that we
> >will held the International Democratic Education Conference ICEC in
> >Berlin next Summer. You find all information currently available on our
> >website
> >-> http://idec2005.org
> >
> >We will probably have Mimsy Sadofsky, founder of the Sudbury Valley
> >School here. (This is a brand new information, we are very happy about
> >that). We try to get several other sudbury modelled schools (students,
> >staff) to our conference. We will comunicate later in more detail. But
> >now your request gave reason to mention it already now.
> >
> >The IDEC is first-time in Europe after several years and meanwhile we
> >have news from different European countries that want to start with
> >Sudbury Schools, Germany included.
> >
> >It would be nice to have you there. Any inquiry is welcome.
> >
> >Best regards
> >Mike Weimann
> >
> >corrina gordon schrieb:
> > > Are any of you based in England and/or wanting to set up a
> Sudbury-based
> > > model here?
> >
> >--
> >Mike Weimann, Winsstraße 4, 10405 Berlin
> >http://kraetzae.de, http://kinderwahlrecht.de
> >
> >--__--__--
> >
> >Message: 4
> >From: "Carol Hughes" <hughes0005_at_comcast.net>
> >To: <discuss-sudbury-model_at_sudval.org>
> >Subject: Re: [Discuss-sudbury-model] interest in England?
> >Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 15:09:03 -0400
> >Reply-To: discuss-sudbury-model_at_sudval.org
> >
> >How exciting,
> >Best of luck to you all. Keep us posted as it goes along so we
> can support
> >you.
> >Regards,
> >Carol Hughes
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Mike Weimann" <mike.weimann_at_gmx.net>
> >To: <discuss-sudbury-model_at_sudval.org>
> >Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2004 1:37 PM
> >Subject: Re: [Discuss-sudbury-model] interest in England?
> >
> >
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > my name is Mike Weimann, I'm new on this listserve. I'm
> involved in the
> > > process of starting a Sudbury School in Berlin, Germany.
> > > -> http://sudbury.de
> > >
> > > To get some more information about my background, please check the
> > > website of our Berlin youth group as well, you find many links related
> > > to alternative child uprearing and school issues.
> > > -> http://kraetzae.de (some information in English available)
> > >
> > > I want to tell you, Corrina, (and by the way everybody else) that we
> > > will held the International Democratic Education Conference ICEC in
> > > Berlin next Summer. You find all information currently
> available on our
> > > website
> > > -> http://idec2005.org
> > >
> > > We will probably have Mimsy Sadofsky, founder of the Sudbury Valley
> > > School here. (This is a brand new information, we are very happy about
> > > that). We try to get several other sudbury modelled schools (students,
> > > staff) to our conference. We will comunicate later in more detail. But
> > > now your request gave reason to mention it already now.
> > >
> > > The IDEC is first-time in Europe after several years and meanwhile we
> > > have news from different European countries that want to start with
> > > Sudbury Schools, Germany included.
> > >
> > > It would be nice to have you there. Any inquiry is welcome.
> > >
> > > Best regards
> > > Mike Weimann
> > >
> > > corrina gordon schrieb:
> > > > Are any of you based in England and/or wanting to set up a
> >Sudbury-based
> > > > model here?
> > >
> > > --
> > > Mike Weimann, Winsstraße 4, 10405 Berlin
> > > http://kraetzae.de, http://kinderwahlrecht.de
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Discuss-sudbury-model mailing list
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> >
> >
> >
> >--__--__--
> >
> >Message: 5
> >From: "Jennifer Blair" <noise44_at_msn.com>
> >To: <discuss-sudbury-model_at_sudval.org>
> >Subject: Re: [Discuss-sudbury-model] interest in England? (/Scotland?)
> >Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 16:02:21 -0400
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> >Hi Corrina,
> >
> >You should check out Summerhill, I believe the school is in Leiston in =
> >Soffolk. The school that really started it all. =
> >http://www.summerhillschool.co.uk/indexgo.html<http://www.summerh
> illschoo=
> >l.co.uk/indexgo.html> if there was an earlier school, I would love to =
> >hear about it.
> >
> >Take care,
> >Jennifer
> > ----- Original Message -----=20
> > From: Regina Leeb<mailto:RichLeeb_at_web.de>=20
> > To: =
> >discuss-sudbury-model_at_sudval.org<mailto:discuss-sudbury-model_at_sud
> val.org>=
> >=20
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2004 1:04 PM
> > Subject: [Discuss-sudbury-model] interest in England? (/Scotland?)
> >
> >
> > =
> >discuss-sudbury-model_at_sudval.org<mailto:discuss-sudbury-model_at_sud
> val.org>=
> > schrieb am 29.09.04 18:11:38:
> >
> > Hi to all
> >
> > Are any of you based in England and/or wanting to set up a =
> >Sudbury-based=20
> > model here?
> >
> > I'm teaching in the English state system now and my heart is in the =
> >Sudbury=20
> > model. I'm interested in either setting up a one-off school or just =
> >going=20
> > the whole hog and Sudburyifying the English system. Where are
> all you=20
> > English people who have this same yearning and the energy to start =
> >kicking=20
> > some ass!?? Surely better late than never.... ;0)
> >
> > Love to all,
> > Corrina
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Hey Corrina,
> >
> >
> >
> > I am not really an 'English person', but based in the UK for the =
> >moment anyway (Scotland, that is). I've spent a year at the Australian =
> >Sudbury! School, but am originally from Germany. At the moment I am =
> >studying conservation biology at the university of Aberdeen. I just =
> >wanted you to have my email adress in case you do get some people to =
> >meet sometime and want to invite me along ;-) No seriously, it might be =
> >interesting for any of us and I just love getting in touch with other =
> >Sudbury people!
> >
> > Good luck to you,
> >
> >
> >
> > Greetz,
> >
> >
> >
> > Regina =3D)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > =20
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> > weltweit telefonieren! =
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> > _______________________________________________
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> ><DIV>Hi Corrina,</DIV>
> ><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
> ><DIV>You should check out Summerhill, I believe the school is in
> Leiston =
> >in=20
> >Soffolk. The school that really started it all. <A=20
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> >if there was an earlier school, I would love to hear about it.</DIV>
> ><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
> ><DIV>Take care,</DIV>
> ><DIV>Jennifer</DIV>
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> >[Discuss-sudbury-model] interest=20
> > in England? (/Scotland?)</DIV>
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> > schrieb am 29.09.04 18:11:38:<BR><BR>Hi to all<BR><BR>Are any of you =
> >based in=20
> > England and/or wanting to set up a Sudbury-based <BR>model =
> >here?<BR><BR>I'm=20
> > teaching in the English state system now and my heart is in the =
> >Sudbury=20
> > <BR>model. I'm interested in either setting up a one-off school or =
> >just going=20
> > <BR>the whole hog and Sudburyifying the English system. Where
> are all =
> >you=20
> > <BR>English people who have this same yearning and the energy
> to start =
> >kicking=20
> > <BR>some ass!?? Surely better late than never....
> ;0)<BR><BR>Love to=20
> > all,<BR>Corrina<BR><BR><BR></P>
> > <P>Hey Corrina,</P>
> > <P>&nbsp;</P>
> > <P>I am not really an 'English person', but based in the UK for the =
> >moment=20
> > anyway (Scotland, that is). I've spent a year&nbsp;at the Australian =
> >Sudbury!=20
> > School, but am originally from Germany. At the moment I am studying=20
> > conservation biology at the university of Aberdeen. I just
> wanted you =
> >to have=20
> > my email adress in case you do get some people to meet sometime and =
> >want to=20
> > invite me along ;-) No seriously, it might be interesting for any of =
> >us and I=20
> > just <EM>love</EM> getting in touch with other Sudbury people!</P>
> > <P>Good luck to you,</P>
> > <P>&nbsp;</P>
> > <P>Greetz,</P>
> > <P>&nbsp;</P>
> > <P>Regina =3D)<BR><BR></P></DIV><BR><BR>
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> >Message: 6
> >From: "Geert Wester" <westerleerdam_at_keyaccess.nl>
> >To: <discuss-sudbury-model_at_sudval.org>
> >Subject: RE: [Discuss-sudbury-model] parenting teens
> >Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 23:32:09 +0200
> >Reply-To: discuss-sudbury-model_at_sudval.org
> >
> >Dear Ann,
> >
> >Sorry if you feel I interrupt in your discussion. I am a father of some
> >teenagers, of which one is on a sudbury-based school here in Holland.
> >I (think I) understand your remarks and feelings. I read the suggestions
> >made in the answers.
> >What strikes me is the two options that are mentioned: to hide
> the feelings
> >or to translate them into decisions.
> >Yes, they are your feelings, and I feel they need to be respected, by
> >yourself as well as by your children.
> >Why not share your feelings, even when they are not clear, about your
> >children and their friends.
> >Why not try to come to a shared decision about what to do?
> >When it comes to trust your children, maybe the trust to share your
> >feelings
> >and the way they will treat you is part of it.
> >
> >Wish you all the best!
> >
> >Geert
> >
> >-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> >Van: discuss-sudbury-model-admin_at_sudval.org
> >[mailto:discuss-sudbury-model-admin_at_sudval.org]Namens Ann Ide
> >Verzonden: dinsdag 28 september 2004 23:17
> >Aan: discuss-sudbury-model_at_sudval.org
> >Onderwerp: Re: [Discuss-sudbury-model] parenting teens
> >
> >
> >Robin,
> >
> >Perhaps if my "feelings" were as strong as yours sound to me, I would be
> >better able to negotiate ( I refuse to take an authoritave approach.
> >Everyone else's feelings count, too !). I think my problem is that I am
> >not
> >secure with my decisions. I don't have the background, criteria,
> >reasoning,
> >etc. for situations that are new to me. It's even harder when
> things come
> >up unexpectedly.
> >
> >Would any of you ( on this list ) leave 6 12-14 year olds home alone ?
> >Older teens ? What about when they start driving; do you condone just
> >driving around ? Do you ask to know where they are at all times? If so,
> >why? If not, why not ? What's the point of a curfew ? All
> these "rules"
> >seem based on mistrust.
> >
> >Ann
> >
> >---- Original Message -----
> >From: <erjackson_at_bham.rr.com>
> >To: <discuss-sudbury-model_at_sudval.org>
> >Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2004 3:53 PM
> >Subject: Re: [Discuss-sudbury-model] parenting teens
> >
> >
> > > Hi, Ann,
> > > This reminds me of some of my own concerns. It occurs to me
> that you let
> >your husband make the decision and then you weren't happy with his
> >decision,
> >regardless of whether he was right or not. You could have made the
> >decision
> >yourself and said it had to be 10, period, and, regardless of
> whether that
> >was "right", they would have to abide by it, because your feelings count.
> >What occurs to me is that it all turns on my feelings, intuitions,
> >anxieties, etc. My husband is always more relaxed about things like this.
> >Either my feelings about things are important and respected and people
> >abide
> >by the implications etc. or I have to be willing to change my
> feelings with
> >EFT or counseling or biofeedback or something, on the assumption that my
> >concerns are exaggerated. This is not a solution to your problem,
> >obviously,
> >just some thoughts I have had about the problem of anxieties about
> >children -- including younger children testing their wings -- which has
> >troubled me a lot.
> > > Best regards,
> > > Robin
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Ann Ide <ann.ide_at_rcn.com>
> > > Date: Tuesday, September 28, 2004 1:38 pm
> > > Subject: [Discuss-sudbury-model] parenting teens
> > >
> > > > Hi everyone,
> > > >
> > > > Just when you think you're getting the hang of it, a new stage
> > > > comes along, right ? My son is now 14, and I'm feeling like I
> > > > don't know how to make judgement calls as his parent anymore. As
> > > > a Sudbury Valley kid, he has grown to expect trust at school and
> > > > at home. So far, I haven't had a problem with giving it to him.
> > > > But now he is beginning to ask for trust where I am not so sure it
> > > > is okay. For example, he had 5 friends sleepover here over the
> > > > weekend, ages 12-13. After dark,they wanted to walk down to the
> > > > neighborhood center and hang out ( where there is a pizza shop,
> > > > dunkin donuts, etc. ). Around 10 pm, when they still weren't
> > > > home, I sent my husband out to look for them. He came back saying
> > > > they said they would be home by midnight. They were just hanging
> > > > around and talking; and he was fine with it. He did it when he
> > > > was a kid, roaming all over. I was not okay with it. We live in
> > > > a very safe neighborhood. I don't think I am concerned about them
> > > > being approached or attacked, altho' they could meet up with other
> > > > kids looking for trouble; but unlikely around here. Still......
> > > >
> > > > I have read that the part of the brain that is responsible for
> > > > judgement isn't fully developed until much later in life; and that
> > > > is one reason why so many teenagers make "mistakes". They are
> > > > convinced they know what they're doing. ( I think teenagers are
> > > > convinced they know everything else, too. I did! Must be the
> > > > hormone surges.) Anyway, I know that to learn judgement one needs
> > > > to exercise it and learn through experience; but how far do I go
> > > > to allow that to happen.
> > > >
> > > > Some parents allow the girls and boys to sleep in the same room on
> > > > coed sleepovers; otrhers don't. I'm sure more things will show
> > > > up. What criteria do I use in deciding how much to let my
> > > > teenager make his own decisions; and when do I intervene? And, if
> > > > I do, how do I do it without resentment ? So often it is just an
> > > > intangible comfort zone, without any rational reason to
> > > > articulate.
> > > >
> > > > What have you folks learned ?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > >
> > > > Ann Ide
> > >
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> >Message: 7
> >From: "Vera Wagemans" <vera-wagemans_at_tiscalinet.be>
> >To: <discuss-sudbury-model_at_sudval.org>
> >Subject: RE: [Discuss-sudbury-model] interest in England? (/Scotland?)
> >Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 11:12:32 +0200
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> >Hi Jennifer,
> >
> >I would not say that Summerhill is a Sudbury School! Maybe they were the
> >first but they are not the same in my opinion.
> >
> >greetz,
> >Vera (in Belgium)
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: discuss-sudbury-model-admin_at_sudval.org
> >[mailto:discuss-sudbury-model-admin_at_sudval.org]On Behalf Of
> Jennifer Blair
> > Sent: woensdag 29 september 2004 22:02
> > To: discuss-sudbury-model_at_sudval.org
> > Subject: Re: [Discuss-sudbury-model] interest in England? (/Scotland?)
> >
> >
> > Hi Corrina,
> >
> > You should check out Summerhill, I believe the school is in Leiston in
> >Soffolk. The school that really started it all.
> >http://www.summerhillschool.co.uk/indexgo.html if there was an earlier
> >school, I would love to hear about it.
> >
> > Take care,
> > Jennifer
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Regina Leeb
> > To: discuss-sudbury-model_at_sudval.org
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2004 1:04 PM
> > Subject: [Discuss-sudbury-model] interest in England? (/Scotland?)
> >
> >
> > discuss-sudbury-model_at_sudval.org schrieb am 29.09.04 18:11:38:
> >
> > Hi to all
> >
> > Are any of you based in England and/or wanting to set up a
> >Sudbury-based
> > model here?
> >
> > I'm teaching in the English state system now and my heart is in the
> >Sudbury
> > model. I'm interested in either setting up a one-off school or just
> >going
> > the whole hog and Sudburyifying the English system. Where
> are all you
> > English people who have this same yearning and the energy to start
> >kicking
> > some ass!?? Surely better late than never.... ;0)
> >
> > Love to all,
> > Corrina
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Hey Corrina,
> >
> >
> >
> > I am not really an 'English person', but based in the UK for the
> >moment
> >anyway (Scotland, that is). I've spent a year at the Australian Sudbury!
> >School, but am originally from Germany. At the moment I am studying
> >conservation biology at the university of Aberdeen. I just wanted you to
> >have my email adress in case you do get some people to meet sometime and
> >want to invite me along ;-) No seriously, it might be
> interesting for any
> >of
> >us and I just love getting in touch with other Sudbury people!
> >
> > Good luck to you,
> >
> >
> >
> > Greetz,
> >
> >
> >
> > Regina =)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Mit WEB.DE FreePhone mit hoechster Qualitaet ab 0 Ct./Min.
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> ><DIV><SPAN class=3D430140909-30092004>Hi Jennifer,</SPAN></DIV>
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> ><DIV><SPAN class=3D430140909-30092004>I would not say that
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> ><DIV><SPAN class=3D430140909-30092004>greetz,</SPAN></DIV>
> ><DIV><SPAN class=3D430140909-30092004>Vera (in Belgium)</SPAN></DIV>
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> > Blair<BR><B>Sent:</B> woensdag 29 september 2004
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> > <DIV>Hi Corrina,</DIV>
> > <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
> > <DIV>You should check out Summerhill, I believe the school is in =
> >Leiston in=20
> > Soffolk. The school that really started it all. <A=20
> > title=3Dhttp://www.summerhillschool.co.uk/indexgo.html=20
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> > if there was an earlier school, I would love to hear about it.</DIV>
> > <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
> > <DIV>Take care,</DIV>
> > <DIV>Jennifer</DIV>
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> > ;0)<BR><BR>Love to all,<BR>Corrina<BR><BR><BR></P>
> > <P>Hey Corrina,</P>
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> > <P>Good luck to you,</P>
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