Re: [Discuss-sudbury-model] Communicating SVS Philosophy

From: Ann Ide <ann.ide_at_rcn.com>
Date: Sat Jul 24 20:54:00 2004

That's such a good point, Carol. Thanks. I wish I had the artistic knack
for it that you do.

Ann
----- Original Message -----
From: "Carol Hughes" <hughes0005_at_comcast.net>
To: <discuss-sudbury-model_at_sudval.org>
Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2004 11:37 AM
Subject: [Discuss-sudbury-model] Communicating SVS Philosophy

> Hi Ann,
> I'm not sure that overviews and philosophical discussions sink in better
> than real-life stories. I remember two very clear moments in time when my
> boys were using watercolors and painting and spending hours "playing" and
> suddenly started sprouting times tables. We have a french door with 5
rows
> of three panes. My son sat there dreamily looking at them and announced
> that three times five was fifteen. Another just began reciting his
twelves
> tables seemingly out from thin air. That kind of stuff is so fun to
watch.
> I saw this fun program on WGBH where it was demonstrated that one can
> designate musical notes on a graph that follow the pattern of a healthy
> heart's EKG chart. The music sounded a lot like Bach to me. The
unhealthy
> heart's EKG produced a smaller range of notes. It is this very rhythm
that
> our bodies have that runs through every thought and motion. I have always
> been struck by the importance of time to assimilate, time to experience,
and
> time to explore. Nothing exhausts me more than to have day after day of
> input, input, input. I used to look at the faces of children leaving a
> traditional school for the day. They become more animated as the minutes
> pass AFTER school. This was my "report card" at SVS. My children came
home
> and went right on learning, creating, doing, laughing, planning. Now that
> they are grown they are still doing all of that. How sweet it is.
> Carol
>
> > Ah, what memories. My kids were always much more interested in making a
> > story out of a game. In fact, we still rarely play by the rules, and
they
> > are now 10 and 14 ! However, we do all have to be in agreement as to
how
> we
> > will play/ change the game. I know this goes on at Sudbury Valley all
the
> > time; and,personally, I think that's far more valuable than playing a
game
> > by a set of standard rules all the time (unless you choose to do so to
> > develop mastery ). It's great preparation for life and much more fun !
> >
> > Back to changing paradigms..... I guess Don must have said it more
> clearly;
> > but I was trying to say the same thing. I also think it would be
helpful
> to
> > put less focus on the process of how kids learn at Sudbury Valley; and
to
> > talk more about the underlying beliefs of the philosophy. Even freedom
is
> > one of the means to fulfilling what we believe is important for our
kids.
> > ( What we believe about our kids is important, too, in terms of how it's
> > possible to trust them to learn what they need.) It's tricky to
> distinguish
> > them apart; because we say we believe in freedom and the kids' rights to
> > choose, etc. Yes, we believe in childrens' rights; but even deeper than
> > that, why do we send our children to free schools ? What kinds of
adults
> do
> > we hope they will be able to develop into by having their freedom ?
> >
> > Seems when we talk about how the kids can do whatever they want, it is a
> > huge distraction from talking about what else is really important.
People
> > need to understand why it makes sense first, don't you think ? ( I did.)
> > When we slur them together, it's too much. We humans seem to have this
> > need that things make sense and have some sense of order that we
> understand.
> > Beliefs provide that underlying, often unconcious stucture; hence why
they
> > are so hard to change ( at least, this is my belief ! ). In order to
> change
> > a belief, it needs to take care of that same need and take care of what
is
> > important to the person.
> >
> > Danny has written about what skills are needed to be prepared as an
> > effective adult in the 21st century. I think we could do more and more
of
> > that kind of talk. And what is an effective adult ? How about that one
?
> > Most parents want their children to be effective and prepared; in fact
> they
> > seem to live in fear that if they don't have a certain education they
> won't
> > be those things. They just misunderstand what the standards are; and
they
> > think that gathering knowledge is the key; and they trust the government
> and
> > history that tells them so. John Gatto is good at debunking that.
> >
> > Yea, it is still going to be hard. There are so many issues to deal
with.
> > However, it has been my experience that if someone is at all unhappy
with
> > what is, and open to talk about it; that taking this approach at least
> > creates an opening for continuing discussions.
> >
> > Ann Ide
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <Hunderhill_at_aol.com>
> > To: <hughes0005_at_comcast.net>; <discuss-sudbury-model_at_sudval.org>
> > Sent: Friday, July 23, 2004 9:03 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Discuss-sudbury-model] Paradigms
> >
> >
> > >
> > > In a message dated 7/22/04 8:05:07 PM, hughes0005_at_comcast.net writes:
> > >
> > > << She settled into the chair her eyes intent and picked
> > >
> > > up two chess players on the board and moved them any ole place in the
> > blink
> > >
> > > of an eye. She was neither self-conscious, nor fearful. The can-do
> > energy
> > >
> > > at this table was delicious. >>
> > >
> > > Wonderful vignette, Carol. My 2 1/4 year old granddaughter picks up
> > chess
> > > pieces and slams them down like her older brother, wham. Then I move
a
> > > piece. Then she moves two or three pieces. And we have great fun,
> > until her mom
> > > either tries to teach her how to do it right, or says she's too young.
> > I
> > > just don't know why parents of wonderful kids get so anxious. Why
did
> I
> > for
> > > my son? I'd better reflect on that one.
> > >
> > > Harlan Underhill
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