Re: [Discuss-sudbury-model] socioeconomic status of staff

From: Scott David Gray <>
Date: Wed Oct 29 23:41:01 2003

I didn't respond because I don't like to repeat myself
unneccesarily. You (or anyone) can read my remarks on this
line of argument at

Interestingly, those statements were written in response to
Elizabeth during her last outburst of bitterness over SVS's
unwillingness to give any kind of special treatment or
preference to alumni of Harvard's Graduate School of

On Wed, 29 Oct 2003, Liz Godwin wrote:

> All these thoughts in response to the original question about young people
> becoming staff have been quite interesting to read. I find myself seeing
> both perspectives and understand that the process to become a staff member
> is, quite rightly, lengthy and non-trivial. It is and should be about what
> is best for the students. However, I feel that no one has really addressed
> the elephant in the room, and that is the concern that's been raised about
> the ability of people who are not financially well-off to take the path
> necessary to become a part of the Sudbury community. I am curious as to
> whether anyone on the list is willing to give a synopsis of the typical
> hiree's socioeconomic status. It strikes me that all the hours that one
> must put in to get to know the school and for the school to get to know the
> candidate, _while completely appropriate_, would weed out those who do not
> have the ability to quit their job or take an extended leave of absence, in
> the hope of obtaining another, most likely less lucrative job. This is not
> necessarily bad, but I haven't (in my relatively short time on the list)
> seen anyone truly address this particular angle. So, I am curious as to
> whether most staff members are part of a household in which someone else is
> providing the bulk of the financial support, or if they are privileged
> enough to have been born into money, or whether many have just sacrificed
> all but food and shelter for work they love. I could see myself having the
> time to do what it took to be a candidate for staff; however, it would
> require quitting my job and living off savings or the good graces of my
> parents, most likely moving in with them, and giving up just about every
> activity or hobby that I love so I could work nights to at least pay for my
> room and board. Yes, it's doable. Yes, someone who "wants it badly
> enough" could do it. And I have no problem with the fact that I don't want
> it that badly. Indeed, I think that if I wanted something that badly, it
> would be too much about me and not enough about the students! But really,
> I'd love to know what the typical financial situation is for a candidate,
> because I too am having trouble seeing how anyone but the affluent or the
> ascetic could go through the necessary getting-to-know-you phase.
> Please note that I am not taking issue with the process. I am only curious
> as to what type of person is able to do it. Thanks very much for any info
> anyone is willing to provide.
> Liz

--Scott David Gray
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