Re: [Discuss-sudbury-model] More questions from Florida...

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Date: Sun Sep 21 01:24:00 2003

Every school seems to handle cleaning up with a different approach, but with simiular results!

At Summerhill, Neill believed that keeping the school clean was of little interest to younger students, but important to the adults, so he employed people who were paid to clean the school.

At my school, the meeting tried various things, but the most effective system was when they decided to elect a cleanup supervisor each week, who would be paid $5 if the school was clean. The supervisor's job was to get as many people as possible to clean the school, but would have to do some things his or herself if not able to get people to do their jobs.


In a message dated 9/20/2003 3:27:38 PM Eastern Daylight Time, "Ann Ide" <> writes:

>Hi Terri,
>I'm just a parent from the Sudbury Valley School; so my perspective is just
>that.  When I'm at school, I hear the staff express their concerns quite
>readily.  Staff and students have equal rights and status; so if something
>is bothering them why shouldn't they say something?  I suspect they initiate
>their share at school meeting, too.  Part of the role of being staff is
>being mentors and role models, is it not?  Keeping school clean seems to fit
>in with that, to me.  Our school also has rules about cleaning up after
>oneself.  I suggest you bring that idea to meeting.  IMHO, you are being
>oversensitive to how the kids will perceive you and learn this democratic
>way of life.  How about just being authentic and letting it all fall into
>place with time.  Trust yourself more.
>Good luck,
>Ann Ide
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>From: "terri" <>
>To: <>
>Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 5:55 PM
>Subject: [Discuss-sudbury-model] More questions from Florida...
>> Thank you all for help re: staff  the staff's role in a democratic
>> school!
>> Its really great to have a resource of those who have been a part of a
>> school like ours!!
>> Our greatest struggle seems to be ignoring the FILTH throughout the
>> day!! :o) I'm sure that ours is not the only bunch who doesn't
>> automatically wash their dishes, clean up their experiments, etc. There
>> is no law in place regarding these type of issues, and we (staff) are
>> reluctant to bring one up as we are hoping that the kids recognise this
>> as a problem and THEY bring it up....are we being too idealistic? I
>> mean, do you guys point out things to your kids? See, we are trying not
>> to because we are trying to UN-do the fact that our kids automatically
>> see us as the grown-ups, authority figures, disciplinarians,
>> we are planning to ease into equal status of suggesting laws, etc.  They
>> have been doing a pretty great job of cleaning up at the end of the day,
>> although I do see a day when they are going to revolt and decide to not
>> clean at all....
>> Right now the moderator (who checks on the others' work) is also
>> cleaning what the others don't do.....I don't know if that was actually
>> part of her duties but she ws pretty upset the last 2 days because
>> people weren't completing their duties. We are in Florida and where food
>> is concerned, bugs can come quickly, so leaving it accumulate is really
>> not an option. She did fine the offenders, but I'm sure everyone's jobs
>> were made more difficult by the fact that they were so messy today. We
>> operate out of 2 houses (lovingly referred to as Left Brain & Right
>> Brain due to their location & what they house) and both houses were
>> pretty well trashed today....
>> ....Thank you!!...terri<><
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