RE: [Discuss-sudbury-model] Re: Advice

From: Jeff Collins <>
Date: Wed Sep 17 15:50:01 2003

Hi Terri,

How I would handle this is to ask myself, "what would I do if these were
adults instead of children." To me the answer would be, "it is their
responsibility to be on time, not mine to make sure they are on time."
I certainly wouldn't feel obligated to tell another adult that it was
time to leave or they would be late...


On Tue, 2003-09-16 at 23:16, terri wrote:
> Hi!
> By way of introduction, my name is Terri and I am a staff member at a
> new democratic school in Florida. We are unique in that we are a 2 day
> program for homeschooled children. We have just celebrated our 3rd
> actual day of the program and now have a question for those more
> experienced folks...
> Our program day runs from 9:30 to 3:30 with clean-up beginning at 3:10.
> The situation in question is regarding the fact that some students are
> keeping their parents waiting (at the gate) and one of the staff
> members is concerned about offending the parents.
> Here is the original email:
> "I am really concerned about this. . .We say our program is from
> 9:30-3:30, and we expect our parents to get the students there on time,
> we in turn should have the kids on time to them when they come pick them
> up. The nature of our program has nothing to do with the"time" when
> school ends. If anything we should be teaching the kids to be curtious
> to the parents and try to be prompt. If week in and out we are running
> late- it in turn looks bad on the program, let alone wasting peoples
> time waiting in their car. Its just not fair to do that to people. I
> would like to know how we are going to "handle" this. We should discuss
> this with the kids during meeting and see what they come up with about
> being done on time and looking out for their parents who are out their
> waiting for them. I bellieve we need to help them be aware of this.
> Not a -whenever you get out to the car, you do. . . "
> To which I responded:
> "I understand what you are saying, but here's the thing:
> Lets use public school as an example:
> Lets say class lets out at 3:00, but kids are still writing their
> assignments cuz they waited till the last minute, or they are yapping
> with their friends,etc, but mom comes and they're not ready: thats not
> the school's fault or responsibility, that's THEIRS.
> I agree that we could bring it up at a meeting...but I really think that
> THEY should/would bring it up if their parents are getting upset with
> them--
> Then they would OWN the solution because its actually THEIR problem, not
> OURS (which it is as of right now). I think if they OWN the problem then
> there's more of a chance they will stick with their solution. The only
> way I think WE should be the ones to bring it up is if a parent
> complains to US and they we can take it to the school meeting for a
> solution. Just my opinion, of course. As it stands right now I saw most
> of the kids with their jobs completed plenty early but they were having
> so much fun they didn't leave...I thought that was pretty cool
> actually...."
> After our research re: the Sudbury model feel like our handling--or NOT
> handling--of situations like this will set the tone for our school, and
> could be our demise...which would be TERRIBLE!!
> Please help us sort this out?......terri<><
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