RE: [Discuss-sudbury-model] Re: Advice

From: Mark Girson <>
Date: Wed Sep 17 10:43:00 2003


I have been lurking on this listserve for some time. I very much appreciate
the discussion. I have learned a great deal.

Terri - I live in Gainesville, FL. There is something similar starting here
soon. Where are you?


>From: "terri" <>
>To: <>
>Subject: RE: [Discuss-sudbury-model] Re: Advice
>Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2003 23:16:43 -0400
>By way of introduction, my name is Terri and I am a staff member at a
>new democratic school in Florida. We are unique in that we are a 2 day
>program for homeschooled children. We have just celebrated our 3rd
>actual day of the program and now have a question for those more
>experienced folks...
>Our program day runs from 9:30 to 3:30 with clean-up beginning at 3:10.
>The situation in question is regarding the fact that some students are
>keeping their parents waiting (at the gate) and one of the staff
>members is concerned about offending the parents.
>Here is the original email:
>"I am really concerned about this. . .We say our program is from
>9:30-3:30, and we expect our parents to get the students there on time,
>we in turn should have the kids on time to them when they come pick them
>up. The nature of our program has nothing to do with the"time" when
>school ends. If anything we should be teaching the kids to be curtious
>to the parents and try to be prompt. If week in and out we are running
>late- it in turn looks bad on the program, let alone wasting peoples
>time waiting in their car. Its just not fair to do that to people. I
>would like to know how we are going to "handle" this. We should discuss
>this with the kids during meeting and see what they come up with about
>being done on time and looking out for their parents who are out their
>waiting for them. I bellieve we need to help them be aware of this.
>Not a -whenever you get out to the car, you do. . . "
>To which I responded:
>"I understand what you are saying, but here's the thing:
>Lets use public school as an example:
>Lets say class lets out at 3:00, but kids are still writing their
>assignments cuz they waited till the last minute, or they are yapping
>with their friends,etc, but mom comes and they're not ready: thats not
>the school's fault or responsibility, that's THEIRS.
>I agree that we could bring it up at a meeting...but I really think that
>THEY should/would bring it up if their parents are getting upset with
>Then they would OWN the solution because its actually THEIR problem, not
>OURS (which it is as of right now). I think if they OWN the problem then
>there's more of a chance they will stick with their solution. The only
>way I think WE should be the ones to bring it up is if a parent
>complains to US and they we can take it to the school meeting for a
>solution. Just my opinion, of course. As it stands right now I saw most
>of the kids with their jobs completed plenty early but they were having
>so much fun they didn't leave...I thought that was pretty cool
>After our research re: the Sudbury model feel like our handling--or NOT
>handling--of situations like this will set the tone for our school, and
>could be our demise...which would be TERRIBLE!!
>Please help us sort this out?......terri<><
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