Re: [Discuss-sudbury-model] post-secondary

From: Victoria Serda <>
Date: Thu Mar 20 13:38:00 2003

I'd like to add that in Canada, at the University of Waterloo, Ontario, there is
the Independent Studies Program (undergraduate degree- where the student
can design their own courses or mix with ones offered by the university (whether
distance or on campus), and to get the undergraduate degree you do a thesis.
There are no grades or tests, no prerequisite courses, and students have
meetings one on one with professors. I just finished this program, and sat on
the admissions committee, so if anyone has questions, email me. UW was listed by
Macleans Magazine to be the #1 best overall university in Canada for the 11th
year in a row. This is the best program I
have ever heard of at an undergraduate level.
Victoria Serda

Joseph Moore wrote:

> > From: Mike Sadofsky []
> > I am hardly an expert on the college and university scene, but some
> > folks talk about Hampshire and Goddard having a self-directed
> > structure. And depending on what one wants, St. Johns may be a school
> > to consider.
> >
> > Mike Sadofsky
> >
> Not a SM grad, just a dad - going from a standard model high school to the
> Great Books program at St. John's was quite a shock: there's this huge
> assigned reading list with a schedule for when and where you'll be meeting
> to discuss the works, virtually no tests, and 2-3 papers per semester.
> 'Tutors' sit at the table with the students in small groups. Nobody's
> following you around to make sure you get stuff done - you do or not do, you
> stay or not stay. My butt-in-the-desk busywork education up to that point
> did nothing to prepare me for this.
> I imagine that, if a 'classical' education is what a kid wants, Sudbury
> would be far better prep for St. John's College than anything I did, and,
> assuming attitudes there have not changed too much over the last 27 (*gulp*)
> years, they'd have little problem accepting a kid who wanted in regardless
> of diplomas and SAT scores they may or may not have.
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