[Discuss-sudbury-model] SVS=Elite? AND Urban Students]

From: Victoria Serda <vserda_at_sympatico.ca>
Date: Wed Dec 4 16:56:00 2002

attached mail follows:

Hi again. Thanks for your other response.
I am in the Independent Studies Program (undergraduate degree) at the
University of Waterloo in Ontario,
http://www.adm.uwaterloo.ca/interdis/independent/index.html, where all of
my courses are done independently under the facilitation of a professor(s).
There are no grades, courses are given a "May Proceed" (credit) when a
person has completed the approximation of 100 hours of work. How to do so
is between you and your professor. I write reports, explain what I am doing
for each course that I have designed, and they give me feedback on my work
and help to find people with expertise to help me. For example, I have
received credits for growing an organic garden as an experiment, starting
an SVS-type school, and researching and presenting a speech to my town
council on pesticide use. I am now in the thesis phase, where I am writing
a 50-75 page essay on self-directed, democratic schools; why they are best
for learning, and how they uphold children's rights. My brother is has
written a movie script for his degree, other topics have been living on
Mars, the reunification of Korea, etc. Soon I will have a Bachelor of
Independent Study. (a recognized degree, equivalent to any other Bachelor)
It sounds like it has the same philosophy as SVS, non?
I have applied to go to the Ontario Institute of Studies in Education in
Toronto, where I hope to get a Master's and PhD Degree in Human Rights,
Democracy and Education.

Joe Jackson wrote:

> Hey Victoria, when you decided to go to school where did you end up
> going?
> -joe
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: discuss-sudbury-model-admin_at_sudval.org
> > [mailto:discuss-sudbury-model-admin_at_sudval.org] On Behalf Of
> > Victoria Serda
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 1:55 PM
> > To: discuss-sudbury-model_at_sudval.org
> > Subject: Re: [Discuss-sudbury-model] SVS=Elite? AND Urban Students
> >
> >
> > Hello there everyone,
> > I would like to mention that I notice a prejudice against
> > formal education in this letter and in many assumptions that
> > I have seen in this discussion group. Although you will
> > assume that I have a bias because I am a university student,
> > I understand both sides of the fence for I did not originally
> > pursue a post-secondary education because of my disbelief in
> > the authoritarian structure of the university and the elite
> > status of degrees. However, just as some of the founders of
> > SVS having post-graduate degrees helped their credibility, so
> > a degree may help someone else to help children in the way
> > they wish. I don't know how anyone can judge what should be
> > of value to someone else. Each person finds a concept like
> > these self-directed schools at different times in their
> > lifespan, and prejudicing yourself against someone who made a
> > different life choice is hardly worthwhile. Everyone has a
> > different level of tolerance in how much they can do without
> > financial compensation, and after years of being in debt and
> > scrounging for money to pursue humanitarian goals, either as
> > a teacher at an SVS school or a university student, everyone
> > can only make a decision about their own self. If it is not
> > practically possible to pay someone for their labour
> > sometimes, then as long as there is a goal to do so, let the
> > people make the choices they wish. I hope the idea mentionned
> > in one email is true, that there may be a teacher training
> > program that pays. However, as this certainly is not true at
> > all SVS school, some people may not be able to make the
> > financial sacrifice because of restraints, and this situation
> > may prejudice their being able to participate at the level
> > they would choose. Imagine three examples: a graduate,
> > finally looking forward to some compensation for many years
> > of hard work; a teacher at an SVS school, looking forward to
> > the compensation for many years of trying to start a school;
> > a person interested in teaching at an SVS school who does not
> > have the financial ability to volunteer. All are admirable.
> > All should ideally be compensated for their work. Victoria
> >
> > Evfocus_at_aol.com wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Everyone,
> > > I am not sure anyone who believes that Graduate school is
> > worth going
> > > into debt for but being a staff person a an SVS school is not. I
> > > believe what I have learned in the three years I have had
> > my daughters
> > > at Diablo Valley to be my valuble most education so far. I never be
> > > grudge one cent of the money I spend for this experience.
> > I would not
> > > trade it for a Harvard graduate education.
> > >
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