DSM: RE: Re: RE: diploma

From: Joe Jackson (shoeless@jazztbone.com)
Date: Tue Dec 11 2001 - 21:26:52 EST


The idea that really young kids would come in and get a diploma is
usually brought up in the debate, however it's not been a practical
issue. After all, why would a ten-year-old want to get a diploma,
especially since a graduate of Fairhaven must reapply in order to return
to the school.

-Joe

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-discuss-sudbury-model@sudval.org
> [mailto:owner-discuss-sudbury-model@sudval.org] On Behalf Of Ann Ide
> Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 8:02 PM
> To: discuss-sudbury-model@sudval.org
> Subject: DSM: Re: RE: diploma
>
>
> Thanks Joe,
>
> I think I get the trust part now. Question though, which
> you've probably
> been asked before: If the standard is being a member in good
> standing for three years; then a 7 year old who started at 4
> can graduate with a diploma??? There must be more.
>
> As for your effective adult response. Very interesting.
> Really. I'm just
> gonna take it all in for a bit.
>
> Ann
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Joe Jackson <shoeless@jazztbone.com>
> To: <discuss-sudbury-model@sudval.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 5:38 PM
> Subject: DSM: RE: diploma
>
>
> > Ann said,
> >
> > Joe, you said that members of the Assembly must have trust to vote
> > affirmative for a graduation. I guess if no standards are
> set up then
> > that is partially true. I guess I don't quite get why you
> would say
> > that. You just totally take the students word for their claims?
> > **********************************
> >
> > Actually I am saying that I trust the methods of Fairhaven
> enough to
> > believe that a student who has spent several years at our
> school can
> > be the only determiner of when they have completed their course of
> > study at the school. And I feel that it is inaccurate to say there
> > are no standards. One must be a member of the school in
> good standing
> > for three years in order to receive this trust.
> >
> > ***********************
> > Mark and I are always pondering on the philosophical
> question of: what
> > is an effective adult?
> > ***********************
> >
> > That is precisely the question the members of our assembly began
> > asking themselves. Many of us decided that we could not
> answer that
> > question for others. And funny enough, several of those
> who *do* want
> > to answer that strike me as decidedly ineffective and all too adult.
> >
> > -Joe
> >
> >
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