Re: DSM: RE: Re: Diploma

From: Mike Sadofsky (sadofsky@mediaone.net)
Date: Mon Dec 10 2001 - 17:08:20 EST


So does the Village School of Northfield serving students from k-12 as
a charter school under Northfield Minnesota's jurisdiction offer a
diploma? What criteria are used to award the diploma? How were these
criteria developed and established?
Mike

On Mon, 10 Dec 2001 15:51:28 -0600, you wrote:

>Joe wrote:
>>Different students want different things. Some students want to
>>restrict the awarding of a diploma to those who have passed an
>>evaluative process. Some students and many parents believe it is
>>important to have a document called a diploma in order to get jobs, etc.
>
>I'm torn about what a diploma should mean. On the one hand, those who say
>you need it to get a job are probably right. So in some ways it's almost a
>civil liberties/non-discrimination case: what could a person do in high
>school that would be so bad that a diploma and therefore future chance at a
>job should be withheld ? If we hold that much power over someone we need
>to take the job seriously. This would argue that we should give diplomas
>to everyone, much as some college professors awarded A's during the Vietnam
>war so students wouldn't be drafted.
>
>Another argument is that democratic schools ask students to judge for
>themselves what they need. How do we then say "well, this is what WE think
>you need and you haven't gotten it yet".?
>
>A third viewpoint is that as a member of my community I have a vested
>interest in what others think about this school. If getting a diploma here
>is considered a joke then probably the school will be considered a joke
>too. I would like to be respected, and have the diploma mean something to
>others. Therefore, I would like to have some kind of criteria, preferably
>in line with the mission statement, that success (diploma) or failure (no
>diploma) could be judged on. And as a write that, I feel bad because I
>don't want anyone considered a failure.
>
>I think in the final result, I would like a process where each student
>judged for him-/her-self whether he/she is ready to be independent in the
>world. The community would suggest criteria that the students could use
>(able to keep a checking account, hold a job, speak, write, read,
>participate in the community), but we all know successful adults that can't
>do each of these things. Each student could pick what criteria he/she has
>been aiming at and talk about how well he/she has met them. The community
>could comment and question, but only that student could truly decide what
>"success" was.
>
>Karen
>
>
>
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