RE: DSM: The homeschool curriculum

From: Liz Reid&Errol Strelnikoff (lizanderrol@home.com)
Date: Sat Dec 08 2001 - 11:30:14 EST


Then I am confused, you say that Sudbury School does not have a
curriculum and yet you seem to think that because the word homeschool
uses the word school it must therefore have a curriculum?
Liz

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> Scott David
> Gray
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> Subject: Re: DSM: The homeschool curriculum
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>
> On Fri, 7 Dec 2001, Liz Reid&Errol Strelnikoff wrote:
>
> > It was mentioned in a previous post that changing from
> public school to
> > homeschooling was not so different as they both involved curriculum.
> > Surely Sudbury Valley must have a curriculum also as it is also a
> > school?
> > Liz
>
> This is where the word "school" sometimes gets us into
> trouble.
>
> To the extent that one uses the term "school" to mean a
> place which facilitates learning, I'd say that a Sudbury
> model school -- which gives people time and resources to use
> as in the living of their own lives and pursuit of their own
> interests -- fills the bill.
>
> But, insofar as the school itself does not start it's
> relationship with a student with a plan for how any given
> student will unfold -- that there is no "curriculum" which
> limits or defines the type or sort of information which will
> be pursued -- the term "school" is sometimes misleads
> people.
>
> Basically, it is a matter of definition.
> I believe that I am using the word curriculum to mean the
> same thing that most people mean by it. But in case I or
> others do understand the term differently, I'll explain the
> phenomenon I am referring to with the word "curriculum."
> Curriculum: a plan, course of study, or set of educational
> goals, laid out and actively pursued by a school.
> By this definition, a Sudbury school does not have a
> curriculum. If one defines "school" as a place with a
> curriculum, then no -- Sudbury schools are not schools. In
> fact, I often start talks about the Sudbury model, by
> pointing out how easy it is to be trapped by our own
> understandings of words -- I usually ask my audience to just
> forget the term "school" for a little while when I explain
> the ways in which a Sudbury community operates.
> Personally, I find the term school to still have
> relevence, despite the confusion it generates... Sudbury
> schools do have a mission that is tied up with the learning
> process, even though it is not pre-defined, and therefore
> not a curriculum: to be communities in which people can
> develop without preconceptions as to what they will develop
> or unfold into.
>
> I don't really care to get into a debate over words. :-)
> Frankly, if someone else says that "curriculum" means
> something else, it's no skin off my back. If someone else
> says that "school" means something else, that doesn't bother
> me either. I try to use words that the bulk of people
> around me will understand in the spirit that I used them --
> I don't pretend to have 100% accuracy with every person,
> because of real language differences between people.
>
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>
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