RE: DSM: Re: Re: Re: sudbury in the home

From: Scott David Gray (sgray@aramis.sudval.org)
Date: Wed Dec 05 2001 - 19:21:59 EST


On Wed, 5 Dec 2001, Joseph Moore wrote:

> Tone establishment moment: the tone is jocular.
>
> Wait a sec, Scott - isn't the argument you make about college exactly the
> one to apply to TV? You can get all the positive stuff TV has to offer
> (about 3% of the content, to my gimlet eye) someplace else without having to
> put up with all the nonsense.

Absolutely. I would not force a person to keep away from
college. Getting rid of the family TV forces that issue.

> I listen to the radio while I wash dishes, read the paper - and don't miss
> TV one bit, except when the Lakers are on. I can even watch news clips over
> the Net when it's important (that's what I did September 11th). And, I don't
> have to watch any ads!! Stupid sitcoms will never darken my living room,
> "Reality" will not be reframed as a pack of attention-starved rat-eating
> idiots, Dan Rather's furrowed brow will never o'ershadow the ponderous
> TRUTHS escaping the barrier of his unnaturally white teeth! In these small
> things, and much more, I rejoice!
>
> Just another view, your mileage may vary, and so on,
> Joseph
>
> BTW: Compulsory school is *also* "a core part of our cultural experience and
> lexicon", yet some of us feel we're better off without that particular
> shared experience. ;-}

A kid can choose to turn off a TV her/himself. Can a kid
choose to turn off truancy laws her/himself?

> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Scott David Gray [mailto:sgray@aramis.sudval.org]
> >
> > Boy, I pity those kids. In the modern USA, a TV is a core
> > part of our cultural experience and lexicon. The TV is
> > probably the single most useful medium for picking up on the
> > broader cultural trends, and making one's judgements about
> > them.
> >
> > On Tue, 4 Dec 2001 Hunderhill@aol.com wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > In a message dated 12/4/01 10:22:12 PM, ann.ide@rcn.com writes:
> > >
> > > << Without my influence, Kenny and Jesse would watch tv
> > from the time they
> > > get home from school for the rest of the night. They would
> > also choose to
> > > sit inside all day on weekends, mostly watching tv. They
> > don't ask to learn
> > > sports, even how to ride a bike. (Mark and I are always
> > going out to
> > > exercise, even do our weight work at home.) They would
> > choose other poor
> > > health habits, if I let them. They have a friend over and
> > choose to watch a
> > > video- I ask them to "play" first for a while. >>
> > >
> > > A few households I know of don't have TV sets.
> > >
> > > Best, Harlan
> > >
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