Re: How We Come Off to Others (was RE: re[2]: DSM: democratic classroom)

From: Dawn Harkness (dawn@harkness.net)
Date: Wed Nov 07 2001 - 09:12:42 EST


[I was in my "pre-enlightenment" phase of
> discourse...perhaps now I would call it my "Dawn Harkness" phase ;o) That
> was intended as friendly teasing, Dawn!]

LOL, Alan!
Dawn

----- Original Message -----
From: "Alan Klein" <Alan@klein.net>
To: <discuss-sudbury-model@sudval.org>
Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2001 8:38 AM
Subject: Re: How We Come Off to Others (was RE: re[2]: DSM: democratic
classroom)

> I am with Dawn on this point, William. I see democracy as a morally
> necessary component of how we interact with kids. That it also provides
the
> pragmatic benefit of a better education is a wonderful side benefit!
>
> I was the one who mentioned the math class. It was in reference to an old
> article from SKOLE, written by a teacher from The Free School in Albany,
NY.
> He described a math class in which the kids got restless and refused to do
> the work (if I recall correctly -- it was a long time ago.) He seemed to
> feel that some kind of intervention was required. I wrote a letter to the
> editor chastising him for having the math class in the first place if the
> kids didn't ask for it. [I was in my "pre-enlightenment" phase of
> discourse...perhaps now I would call it my "Dawn Harkness" phase ;o) That
> was intended as friendly teasing, Dawn!]
>
> I got a note back from the editor (Mary Leue, in her 70's at that time)
> saying that she welcomed my visit to the school (she was the founder) so
she
> could poke me in the nose! (I THINK she was kidding!!)
>
> ~Alan Klein
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "william van horn" <wmvh1@excite.com>
> > So, the most basic thing that attracts you to Sudbury for your child, is
> its
> > democratic process? That freedom is more important to you than her
leaving
> > school with the best education (defined by the tools to effectively
> continue
> > to learn)? (And, as you said, you've come to see the SVS model to be the
> > best educationally.) The freedom is more important than the education?
> >
> > I admit that I have been trying to think of the best system for
providing
> > students these tools, rather than providing them with a strictly
> democratic
> > system as does SVS. Though Daniel Greenberg has certainly provided a
good
> > argument in his books that SVS is actually the best way to ensure the
> > development of these tools.
> >
> > SOmeone mentioned teaching a math class? Did i read that right? Are
there
> > classes set up? How does that work? I would suppose at students'
request,
> > but then what?
> >
> > William
>
>
>
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