Re: re[2]: DSM: democratic classroom

From: Peter Mijatovich (petarm@pacbell.net)
Date: Sun Nov 04 2001 - 02:12:13 EST


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From: "Bruce Smith" <bsmith@coin.org>
To: <discuss-sudbury-model@sudval.org>
Sent: Friday, November 02, 2001 5:32 AM
Subject: Re: re[2]: DSM: democratic classroom

> William,
>
> Here's how I'm interpreting your post: if I and/or others feel that our
> votes don't count, if American democracy is indeed "a shallow game
> controlled by a few powerful people," then what's wrong with showing
> students that? Well, I'll tell you what's wrong with it: that is not how
it
> has to be. Citizens _can_ organize and effect real change. It's often not
> easy, but it can and does happen. Besides, I think the point's been made
> before that if you want to know how much an individual's vote counts, you
> can ask Al Gore.
>
> And if I'm wrong, then at least we could do ourselves a favor and stop
> pretending that it is a democracy.
>
> Being cynical and pessismistic about the status quo is yet another gripe I
> have about conventional education. "That's just the way things are" is a
> sorry excuse for inflicting as much unpleasantness on students as possible
> ("well, golly, the real world is full of shit, so we'd better get them
used
> to it now"), thereby churning out still more passive graduates who expect
> life to suck, and believe themselves powerless to change that.
>
> Do you want to just accept that things suck, or do something about it? Do
> you want kids to feel empowered, or victims of a corrupt system?
>
> Bruce
>
>
>
>
> At 9:11 PM 11/1/01, william van horn wrote:
> >. All I see it preparing
> >> students for is a life of believing that democracy itself is a shallow
> >game
> >> controlled by a few powerful people.
> >>
> >> Bruce Smith
> >> Alpine Valley School
> >
> >Sorta like it usually works in the United States, right? How much do you
> >feel that your vote counts?
> >
> >William M. Van Horn
>
>
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