Re: DSM: Almost Democracy

From: Scott David Gray (sgray@aramis.sudval.org)
Date: Sat Nov 03 2001 - 19:41:11 EST


They couldn't do that to (for example) my contract. Or to
nullify our contract with Bell Atlantic. Some decisions
once made, cannot be unmade without invoking the local
courts.

On Sat, 3 Nov 2001, Alan Klein wrote:

> I agree that this is a far fetched possibility. But what would stop the
> Assembly (in that far fetched situation) from amending the bylaws to
> stipulate that laws passed by the SM were null and void?
>
> ~Alan
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Scott David Gray" <sgray@aramis.sudval.org>
>
>
> > Let me put it this way... Here is what it would take at
> > SVS, for the Assembly to change the By-laws to remove or
> > nullify the School Meeting if parents were present in the
> > Assembly in proportion to their numbers (generally SM
> > members are more prone to attend than parents -- especially
> > when the SM feels threatened):
> > If 100% of the parents voted to pull the plug
> > (incredibly hard to believe), and all of the
> > non-SM-or-parent Trustees and Public members concurred,
> > roughly 1/3 of the SM members present (that is, the people
> > being attacked by the motion) would have to assent to such a
> > change in the By-laws.
> >
> > And yes, we all exist within larger systems that could
> > "pull the plug" on our freedoms. There were points in the
> > 20th Century (particularly during WWI) when it happened in
> > the US.
> >
> > However, and here is the point; if the School Meeting
> > makes a decision, the Assembly can NOT stop that decision
> > from going through. That might _convince_ some parents to
> > remove their children from the school (goodness knows that
> > this happens), or even (in the nightmare scenario you
> > describe, requiring some SM support) amend the SM out of
> > existance.
> > But the Assembly _cannot_ undo or veto a decision made
> > by the School Meeting. Whereas student governments under
> > kindly dictators find their decisions vetoed all the time
> > (such as A.S. Neil -- I was aghast when I was 14 and read
> > his account of how little he respected the Summerhill School
> > Meeting or its decisions; it made me angrier than anything I
> > ever read about military or reform schools).
>
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