Re: DSM: The Sudbury model -- appropriate for all children, yesor no?

From: A&A Mitter-Burke (aamb@mediaone.net)
Date: Thu May 31 2001 - 23:07:26 EDT


Adeshir,

Please accept my complete sympathy for the challenges which Cyrus' condition
must have presented for you. I am glad for each of you that your were able
to find a program which could handle his condition well.

Alan Mitter-Burke

on 5/31/01 1:25 PM, Ardeshir Mehta, N.D. at ardeshir@sympatico.ca wrote:

> Hi there everyone:
>
>
>
> Warren McMillan wrote:
>
>> Alan writes;
>>> What more are you
>>> asking for?
>>
>> I think Adeshir and I, correct me if I am wrong, are discussing the few on
>> the edge in order to see where the Sudbury policy goes if you push it to its
>> extreme. Just testing the limits. At least that is my take on it.
>>
>> Warren
>
> Thank you, Warren, for echoing my sentiments exactly.
>
> What I am exploring is, what the Sudbury model offers --
> or does not offer -- that minuscule portion of kids who
> are at risk, often through no fault of their own.
>
> Such kids are only a statistic to the parents of those other
> kids who are not affected by any such problem. But when
> it is your own kid, it becomes much more than a mere
> statistic.
>
> I speak from personal experience. When my older son
> Cyrus was 4 years old, he used to throw temper tantrums
> that could last up to eight hours! We were lucky that a
> very good psychiatrist here diagnosed him early as having
> a variety of Tourette's Syndrome, one that resulted in
> symptoms of uncontrollable rage and agression. Cyrus
> was put on medication, and that reduced his temper tan-
> trums down to about half an hour each, but in each case,
> it was still a terrible half-hour.
>
> And it occurred almost daily. He just could not control
> himself during those periods.
>
> The local school could do nothing for him. They said
> they just could not keep him at school. He was totally
> disruptive. (This when he was 6 years old, and on
> medication for about two years).
>
> Fortunately the School Board had (at that time) in its
> system another school about 10 km away where they
> had what they called a "Special Support Unit", where
> Cyrus -- along with other troubled kids -- could be
> given individual attention by an adult whenever he
> needed it. The SSU, as it was called for short, was
> run by a *very* gifted teacher, Garvin King from Trini-
> dad, who was very strict without being at all offensive.
> Cyrus loved him, and he worked such a miracle that
> by the time Cyrus was 8 or 9 years of age, his temper
> tantrums had completely -- and I mean *completely*
> -- gone (at least during school hours: at home he
> would, on occasion, throw a temper tantrum anyway.)
>
> At present Cyrus, now age 14, is a model student, does
> not throw temper tantrums anywhere -- neither at school
> nor at home -- and loves going to school. (He is of course
> still on medication, and will probably be on medication
> all his life, unless medical science comes up with another
> solution to his disability). But had the School Board not
> intially put him in what was unashamedly called, and
> indeed was, a therapeutic environment, I shudder to
> think what might have been the case today. He would
> have definitely been expelled from every school he was
> sent to, including a Sudbury model school, for being
> just too disruptive.
>
> This, I think, is a grave lacuna in the Sudbury model,
> and should not be overlooked.
>
> I also would like to throw in my two bits about adults
> who "just won't take responsibility". How many of these
> were undiagnosed troubled kids with some sort of psychi-
> atric disability, who, had they been properly diagnosed
> and treated when still little, might never have ended up
> as adults who "just won't take responsibility"? Thank
> God Cyrus is now not at risk of such a terrible fate!
>
> As I said, when it's your own kid, it's not just a statistic.
>
>
>
> Ardeshir <http://homepage.mac.com/ardeshir/education.html>
>
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