Re: DSM: On Hybrid schools . . . Our Trojon Horse?

From: Alexander / Michiru Streater (
Date: Fri May 11 2001 - 10:45:30 EDT

Dear Scott David

> The key to being a student in a Sudbury Model School is that
> you are trusted completely, with all the same rights and
> freedoms as the adults in the school



> You are not showing trust in a person when you create
> "safeguards" to prevent her/him from making the "wrong"
> choices.

 agreed but I fear you may be losing focus when you say:

> You are not putting faith in a person when you
> tell her/him that THESE hours are hers/his but not THOSE
> hours.

because it looks if you clearly have a traditional American
high school in mind. Perhaps not, but the focal point we should
be defining is how to bring others into the fold without scaring

> snip that the trust and freedom are COMPLETE. Anything
> less may be a good thing compared to a traditional school,
> in so far as the students are under that much less pressure.

AND that's the point. It is -so- much better. Not perfect but a
start, and most importantly, acceptable to thosenot willing to play
with the system by changing it.

> But students in such a school are missing out on _the_ vital
> aspect of a Sudbury education; true responsibility for
> oneself.

I agree up to a point. It depends on how much freedom those
students have.

> I do not believe that a "hybrid" Sudbury School is possible,

Which one?
> On Fri, 11 May 2001, Alexander / Michiru Streater wrote:
> > a) some of the kids that attend belong to the "free" part of it
> > the other half of the kids attend lessons as normal (and look
> > of the window to see the others wasting their time on the grass
> > while they settle back into their chairs comfortable in the
> > knowledge that they will certainly "make it")
> >
> > b) A regular school that provides more choice to it's students about
> > what they do during the day
> >
> > ?

a, b, or both?

> any more than it is possible to be "a little" pregnant.


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This is a wonderful analagy for when I said:

> > But the second case I give a resounding Y-E-S . . . with provissions,
> > the main one being that the school allows itself to move further in
> > the direction (of, say, freedom, or back to traditional learning) as the
> > system evolves and shows itself to be workable.

Note the : "allows itself to move further in the direction . . . " the due
Is that not the analagy for full SVS culture?

Let's get schools "a little" pregnant with a more flexible approach to
education, and see where it leads.

So long as we don't allow local authorities to use birth control we should
have dozons of these pregnant schools popping up all over the place :-) LOL

This has been happening in the UK with secondary schools dotted around
the place, and it is a natural extention to the options given to students
when they reach 16. I feel perhaps there is slightly more freedom in many
UK schools than typical US ones.

Alexander Streater

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