Re: Re[2]: DSM: The Value of the Sudbury Model

From: Scott Gray (
Date: Tue Apr 17 2001 - 02:44:00 EDT


Scott Gray from the Sudbury Valley School here.

I think that you are misrepresenting the Sudbury Valley School.

Sudbury Valley actually does receive two _very_ small government grants
(the Eisenhower Grant for about $600 per year for teacher training -- we
spend it on first aid / cpr training, and the Title VI grant for computer
equipment for about $1000 per year). So, in fact, about 1/5th of one
percent of the School's funding _is_ from government sources.

Sudbury Valley is very pleased that it takes no grants from any source
that have any strings attached. However, the school itself has not taken
the very _political_ stand of rejecting government grants on moral
grounds. SVS is very pleased to advertise (on its web page) its collegial
relationship with the Blue Mountain Sudbury school in Oregon -- Blue
Mountain is publicly funded.

On Tue, 17 Apr 2001, David Rovner wrote:

> Alan . . .
> education is NOT a community responsibility, and should NOT be
> paid for through taxes.
> Education is a PARENTS RESPONSIBILITY, and should be
> paid for by parents -- If YOU want to help them, you will not be
> stopped.
> A society cannot decide everything it wants -- there is a limit to
> intervention, and the limit is INDIVIDUAL RIGHTS.
> I suggest we should try and stop governments paternalistic approach . . .
> I understand Sudbury Valley School is proud of existing 33 years
> by now, with NO government financial support whatsoever.
> David Rovner, Haifa, Israel
> ---------- Original Message ----------
> >To: <>
> >From: "Alan Klein" <>
> >Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 08:58:05 -0400
> >Subject: Re: DSM: The Value of the Sudbury Model
> >David,
> >Marko said, "I would want our school to be government funded, so that
> >everybody regardless of their economic status could take advantage of the
> >model."
> >You responded, "Marko, evidently you are guided by the statist ideology".
> >What a leap! What he said was that he did not want individuals to have to
> >come up with the tuition (on top of taxes they pay) for the schooling they
> >want. Is your belief system one that holds that anything other than strict
> >anarchic-Libertarianism is Statism? If so, then I understand your response.
> >If not, then I submit that all he is saying is that, if a society decides
> >that education is a community responsibility that should be paid for through
> >taxes, then democratic schools should be allowed to be part of that system.
> >~Alan Klein

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