RE: DSM: borrowing some material


Joe Jackson (shoeless@jazztbone.com)
Tue, 27 Feb 2001 07:47:45 -0500


Thanks, Walter!

-Joe J.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-discuss-sudbury-model@aramis.sudval.org
> [mailto:owner-discuss-sudbury-model@aramis.sudval.org]On Behalf Of
> Walter Thiessen (Connweb)
> Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2001 7:37 AM
> To: discuss-sudbury-model@aramis.sudval.org
> Subject: Re: DSM: borrowing some material
>
>
> I agree with Joe, although I feel I should correct one small
> error. He says
> that all SVS students get into whatever college they want to. If
> I remember
> correctly, the school literature states that about 90% of them
> get into the
> college of their first choice and 100% who want to go to college do so
> successfully. That's not quite all students going to whatever college they
> want to, but it's far more impressive than any other school's
> record that I
> know of.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Joe Jackson" <shoeless@jazztbone.com>
> To: <discuss-sudbury-model@aramis.sudval.org>
> Sent: Monday, February 26, 2001 10:04 PM
> Subject: RE: DSM: borrowing some material
>
>
> > Hi, folks!
> >
> > Here's my take on the "grades" issue.
> >
> > As recently as ten years ago, a case could be made that not having a GPA
> or
> > a class ranking constitutes at the very least an impediment
> when applying
> to
> > college admissions departments. That being said, all of the Sudbury
> Valley
> > literature states unequivocally and repeatedly that no SVS grad has ever
> > been unsuccessful in gaining admission to any college they wish.
> >
> > The reason this is so is that colleges (especially good ones) have
> *always*
> > placed more weight on personal interviews and essays than any mechanical
> > measurement like grades and ranking, and interviews and essays are
> precisely
> > the parts of the admissions process in which Sudbury students shine the
> most
> > in comparison to their conventionally-schooled counterparts. And having
> > gotten to know people like SVS/Yale University Grads Ken Pruitt and Josh
> > White, I can see how the admissions officers would be overwhelmed by the
> > utter self-possesed competency these people practically have
> oozing out of
> > their ears.
> >
> > Now, the reason I said "ten years ago" is because nowadays admissions
> > departments are no longer the least bit surprised at a lack of GPA or
> > ranking, because so many incoming students, much of them homeschoolers,
> > don't have them.
> >
> > The ways Sudbury grads have consistently had a better time getting into
> the
> > schools of their choice are SATs, interviews and essays.
> >
> > Regarding the transcripting question, this is not my area.
> >
> > Joe Jackson
> > Fairhaven School
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-discuss-sudbury-model@aramis.sudval.org
> > [mailto:owner-discuss-sudbury-model@aramis.sudval.org]On Behalf Of sara
> > woodall
> > Sent: Monday, February 26, 2001 5:19 PM
> > To: discuss-sudbury-model@aramis.sudval.org
> > Subject: Re: DSM: borrowing some material
> >
> >
> > One area I am very interested in is how "grades" are
> established and used
> to
> > get
> > into institutions of higher education and gain grants or scholarship, or
> if
> > grades are not used just how does one get into a university and
> get money?
> > I wonder if this could be responded to online as I also have a powerful
> > interest in this area. Actually, not so much in translating
> the work into
> > grades, but in putting it into transcript form.
> > Sara
> >
> >
>



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