Re: DSM: borrowing some material


Connweb\ (walter@connweb.com)
Tue, 27 Feb 2001 07:37:19 -0500


I agree with Joe, although I feel I should correct one small error. He says
that all SVS students get into whatever college they want to. If I remember
correctly, the school literature states that about 90% of them get into the
college of their first choice and 100% who want to go to college do so
successfully. That's not quite all students going to whatever college they
want to, but it's far more impressive than any other school's record that I
know of.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Joe Jackson" <shoeless@jazztbone.com>
To: <discuss-sudbury-model@aramis.sudval.org>
Sent: Monday, February 26, 2001 10:04 PM
Subject: RE: DSM: borrowing some material

> Hi, folks!
>
> Here's my take on the "grades" issue.
>
> As recently as ten years ago, a case could be made that not having a GPA
or
> a class ranking constitutes at the very least an impediment when applying
to
> college admissions departments. That being said, all of the Sudbury
Valley
> literature states unequivocally and repeatedly that no SVS grad has ever
> been unsuccessful in gaining admission to any college they wish.
>
> The reason this is so is that colleges (especially good ones) have
*always*
> placed more weight on personal interviews and essays than any mechanical
> measurement like grades and ranking, and interviews and essays are
precisely
> the parts of the admissions process in which Sudbury students shine the
most
> in comparison to their conventionally-schooled counterparts. And having
> gotten to know people like SVS/Yale University Grads Ken Pruitt and Josh
> White, I can see how the admissions officers would be overwhelmed by the
> utter self-possesed competency these people practically have oozing out of
> their ears.
>
> Now, the reason I said "ten years ago" is because nowadays admissions
> departments are no longer the least bit surprised at a lack of GPA or
> ranking, because so many incoming students, much of them homeschoolers,
> don't have them.
>
> The ways Sudbury grads have consistently had a better time getting into
the
> schools of their choice are SATs, interviews and essays.
>
> Regarding the transcripting question, this is not my area.
>
> Joe Jackson
> Fairhaven School
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-discuss-sudbury-model@aramis.sudval.org
> [mailto:owner-discuss-sudbury-model@aramis.sudval.org]On Behalf Of sara
> woodall
> Sent: Monday, February 26, 2001 5:19 PM
> To: discuss-sudbury-model@aramis.sudval.org
> Subject: Re: DSM: borrowing some material
>
>
> One area I am very interested in is how "grades" are established and used
to
> get
> into institutions of higher education and gain grants or scholarship, or
if
> grades are not used just how does one get into a university and get money?
> I wonder if this could be responded to online as I also have a powerful
> interest in this area. Actually, not so much in translating the work into
> grades, but in putting it into transcript form.
> Sara
>
>



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