Re: DSM: Interest increasing?


John Axtell (newlife@theofficenet.com)
Sat, 06 Jan 2001 18:22:08 -0800


Ok so here is a dumb question.

How was the "experiment" proven many years ago and where can you get a copy of
the proof?

It would be great to have something a bit more scientific than simple opinions
and attitudes to convince parents of the validity of the model.

John Axtell

The Booroobin Sudbury School wrote:

> Hi Connie,
> In looking at your web site, I noted that SVS (and Summerhill) are referred
> to as experiments in education. I believe that both are well beyond the
> experiment stage, and as experiments they were proven many years ago. If
> anything is an experiment, put into broad application before its time, it is
> curriculum driven education, one that is constantly failing its victims. Is
> it possible to recategorise these as something else such as other
> educational models, for instance? Another reason for change is that people
> don't as readily choose experiments as a means of education for their
> children.
> Regards, Derek
> The Booroobin Sudbury School
> http://booroobinschool.squirrel.com.au
> Ph/fax +61 07 5499 9944
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Connie Shaw" <ordinary_person@email.msn.com>
> To: <discuss-sudbury-model@aramis.sudval.org>
> Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2001 2:29 AM
> Subject: RE: DSM: Interest increasing?
>
> > Joe writes:
> >
> > > I believe that structures such as School Meeting and JC are not
> > necessarily
> > > part of the model, and in a Sudbury Model school, the participants DO
> > decide
> > > what structures to use...
> >
> > and
> >
> > > I'm interested, since the only real constants of the model is that the
> > > students and staff see to the day-to-day governance, and that learning
> is
> > > student-led (two concepts you are in harmony with), why aren't you
> > starting
> > > a Sudbury School?
> >
> > By this definition, we are a Sudbury school. I was taking care not to use
> > that label, because my previous interactions with staff at a Sudbury
> school
> > I visited, and with a founders group in California led me to believe that
> > the model included the forms of governance.
> >
> > So, my question now is, is it helpful to use the label? I'd be interested
> to
> > hear what people on this list have to say about this. In talking to people
> > about the Living School, I find that when I mention Sudbury, very few
> people
> > have heard of it. For those that have, it does offer a good reference
> point
> > for what we're about. For those who haven't, there is the possibility that
> > they will look at the SVS website and learn more.
> >
> > Does anyone know why the schools that Joe mentions that apparently *are*
> > Sudbury schools by his definition (New School and Tutorial School), choose
> > not to use the label?
> >
> > -Connie Shaw
> >
> >
> >



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