Jerome Mintz (firstname.lastname@example.org)
Sun, 31 Dec 2000 20:54:09 -0500 (EST)
I only rarely check the server which hosts my SVS listserve, but I wonder
if you know of the Kluch School in Moscow. They are an independent
alternative school, pretty much a parent cooperative. When they lost their
builing last year we gave them monmey to rent a site and are now operating
out of a museum in Moscow (we got a grant to help them, as we have done
for a few other schools, including Tubelsky's). About 15 of them will be
traveling this week to the 10th Anniversary of the Storm Family School in
Vinnitsa, Ukraine, where I will be meeting them and others. It is my
impression that Kluch is a school in which students have much freedom.
Perhaps you could connect with them.
If anyone wants a response from me about this, please copy me at
Alternative Education Resource Organization
On Thu, 21 Dec 2000, Anna Babina wrote:
> Hi, Derek!
> Thanks for your attention and support.
> As I wrote to Joe a few days ago I don't find it possible to start an SVS in
> Russia now. I wish to see the results of the educational reformation. The
> thing is that now many statements of the SM are against Russian law. Here is
> an example.
> A friend of my worked in a school in the Moscow district. One of his student
> didn't come to school and at the time of my friend's lesson he was killed in
> a street fight. My friend was responsible for students' life during the
> lesson time according the law. He spent a month in a jail but at the trial
> the boy's parents wrote a document asking to forgive him. So only the
> murders were finally accused. But what if parents wouldn's have done so?
> Needless to say what problem face my friend when he tried to get a job after
> that. I'm not speaking about the feelings of his wife and parents while all
> this was going on.
> That's one of the reasons why teachers are afraid of freedom. Do teachers in
> Australia and other countries have such responsibilities?
> I hope many of the statements which turn a school into a jail will be
> destroyed sometime. Because now the school relationship is based on fear.
> Fortunatelly, the project offered by the government is being discussed and
> criticised in press and educational structures. But the thing that makes me
> desperate is that most people wish strong hand in education as well as in
> politics. Anyway it's a long conversation, Derek.
> I don't leave my dream to create an SVS in this country and your support is
> really precious for me.
> About books and media. I'm full with the information which I got on the SVS
> sites and on this list. I really need time to think all this over.
> -----Исходное сообщение-----
> От: The Booroobin Sudbury School <email@example.com>
> Кому: firstname.lastname@example.org
> Дата: 21 декабря 2000 г. 1:53
> Тема: DSM: Re: нРБЕР: нРБЕР: DSM: An alternative teacher at a tr ...
> >Hi Anna,
> >This is Derek from The Booroobin Sudbury School in Australia.
> >Is there anything we can do to assist you? I note your low income. Have
> >you already got any SVS books or media? Is it possible, by whatever means,
> >to gather support from other people? It will only be through a strongly
> >committed working / founders group that you will be able to get a School
> >the ground. Generating support there for your aspirations will help you
> >with at least moral support, and in time can become collectively strong
> >enough to make things happen.
> >Regards, Derek
> >The Booroobin Sudbury School
> >Ph/fax +61 07 5499 9944
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Anna Babina" <email@example.com>
> >To: <firstname.lastname@example.org>
> >Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2000 4:42 AM
> >Subject: DSM: Ответ: Ответ: DSM: An alternative teacher at a tr ...
> >> Thank you, Evelyn, for the words of encouragement.
> >> I hope that sometime I will create a school much like SVS. Actually,
> >> part in the discussion is one of the steps.
> >> Anna
> >> -----Исходное сообщение-----
> >> От: Evfocus@aol.com <Evfocus@aol.com>
> >> Кому: email@example.com
> >> <firstname.lastname@example.org>
> >> Дата: 20 декабря 2000 г. 18:33
> >> Тема: Re: Ответ: DSM: An alternative teacher at a tr ...
> >> >Dear Anna,
> >> >I applaud your courage and I appreciate your challenge. Even though I
> >> agree
> >> >with others, that it is not possible to replicate the SVS model in a
> >> >curriculum based school. I think to be doing what you are doing in a
> >> country
> >> >that does not guarantee "liberty and justice for all" is important.
> >> >By and large I hated school growing up, I remember fondly every
> >> >where I was given choice.
> >> >I support your desire to do the best you can given the difficulty of
> >> >location. I am the mother of an SVS student and I live near San
> >> >
> >> >Evelyn Hardesty
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
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