Re: DSM: public school prisons (sharing the SVS model, etc.)
Tue, 21 Nov 2000 02:33:31 -0600

 I think I "got it" no doctrine allowed. I'm down with that. Oh and I was
being facetious in saying "experts." I too meant those who have been
around the model more then I have (which is about a month). Thanks for your

> From: Scott Gray <>
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> Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 10:46:03 -0500 (EST)
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> Subject: Re: DSM: public school prisons (sharing the SVS model, etc.)
> Hi Reeny,
> Well, one thing you'll note is that "expert" is a funny term in this
> context. Certainly there are some people in this discussion who have been
> part of schools that grant political democracy, liberty, and equality
> before the law to their students -- and some of those have been involved
> more or less than others.
> Certainly some people have more expirtise in this than others. We can
> just count ourselves fortunate that there is no particular criterion for
> being an "expert."
> In any case, that being said... You will find some correlations between
> the things being said by people who have been deeply involved in these
> sorts of schools, or who have been involved longer in these sorts of
> schools.
> Rarely is it in the form of a "positive" philosophy that suggests a list
> of things the community "must" do to be an example of the model. Much
> more frequently it is in the form of a "negative" philosophy that says "oh
> yeah, if that school does that it is not what we're talking about." In
> other words, there is "no one right way to do things" but there are
> _plenty_ of wrong ways to do things.
> By way of defense of a "negative" philosophy... A negative philosophy
> allows much more freedom to individuals within the context of a community
> that follows that philosophy. A positive philosophy lists a handful of
> things that one "must" do, and thereby channels people down a very narrow
> path, while a negative philosophy lists explicitly those things which must
> _not_ be done leaving the rest open.

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