Re: DSM: public school prisons (sharing the SVS model, etc.)


Dawn F. Harkness (dawn@harkness.net)
Sun, 19 Nov 2000 01:52:56 -0500


LOL ;)

-----Original Message-----
From: Rick Stansberger <rickstan@zianet.com>
To: discuss-sudbury-model@aramis.sudval.org
<discuss-sudbury-model@aramis.sudval.org>
Date: Saturday, November 18, 2000 10:59 PM
Subject: Re: DSM: public school prisons (sharing the SVS model, etc.)

>Wow! Both barrels and the derringer in her boot! I stand obliterated!
(grin)
>Rick
>
>"Dawn F. Harkness" wrote:
>
>> Rick, I object to your characterization of my post. You'll note that I
>> did not growl, snarl or snap. (Is that your way of calling me a dog? If
>> so, you are such a pig!) Since you obviously do not know me personally, I
>> feel compelled to inform you: I have no goon squads, and I am among the
>> least "haughty" people I know. . Of course, "haughty" is among the
>> traditional put downs wimpy guys put on intelligent educated women, so
maybe
>> that explains your use of the word. Am I edgy and opinionated? Yes. A
>> little brighter than the average bear, probably. But haughty? Sorry, in
>> the non-sexist context of the word, you've got the wrong woman.
>>
>> I have tremendous empathy for all kinds of folks, but I have no empathy
for
>> those who make obnoxious remarks inferring condescension on the part of a
>> woman I know who was making an honest attempt to answer a question
regarding
>> why parents enrolled their kids in SVS. If Reeny wanted to be treated
with
>> respect, she should have accorded it to Mimsy instead of the flippant
>> sarcastic remark she posted to this discussion forum without any
explanation
>> for why she said it. I will probably always take umbrage with folks for
>> pulling that kind of verbal cheap shot. I think it is funny how they
always
>> seem to be able to dish it out but can't seem to take it. Bummer for
them.
>>
>> FYI, I intend to help bring about the SVM revolution through strictly
legal
>> means using my own quirky skill set to advance my own civil rights
agenda.
>> One of my favorite lawyers, Gandhi, taught that non-violence does not
mean
>> non-confrontational. I am eternally thankful that my contribution to
the
>> SVM revolution won't have to depend on my ability to persuade the masses
of
>> the ill-informed, just some well placed folks like judges and
legislators.
>> You can spend your time trying to gently enlighten everyone else. Knock
>> yourself out. That's your choice. Be glad you live in a place where
you
>> can make that choice and the State doesn't make it for you. I'm also
glad I
>> live in a place where I can speak my mind whether anyone likes it or not
and
>> I don't have to conform my expressions to appease the politeness police.
I
>> don't care if I win Miss Congeniality in your book, because you aren't
>> exactly anywhere in the running for my award for brightest bulb in the
>> chandelier. Therefore, I suggest you stick to criticizing exactly what I
>> say rather than your fantasies about how you think I am saying it. In
the
>> future, I'll do the same for you.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Rick Stansberger <rickstan@zianet.com>
>> To: discuss-sudbury-model@aramis.sudval.org
>> <discuss-sudbury-model@aramis.sudval.org>
>> Date: Saturday, November 18, 2000 8:45 PM
>> Subject: Re: DSM: public school prisons (sharing the SVS model, etc.)
>>
>> >"Growl! Snarl! Snap!" Come on, Dawn, be cool. Unless you are the
proud
>> >owner of a secret police force and several thousand goon squads, you
aren't
>> >going to further the SVM revolution by being haughty. Folks need
>> >persuading. That takes a bit of empathy.
>> >
>> >Reeny, I'm sorry if Mimsy's and my exchange seemed stuck-up to you. It
>> >actually comes from a desire to understand where the parents of our kids
>> are
>> >coming from so we can meet them at that level. It's the exact opposite
of
>> >superior and standoffish.
>> >
>> >Rick
>> >
>> >"Dawn F. Harkness" wrote:
>> >
>> >> Believe me, I wish you could be enlightened too.
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: isamom@mindspring.com <isamom@mindspring.com>
>> >> To: discuss-sudbury-model@aramis.sudval.org
>> >> <discuss-sudbury-model@aramis.sudval.org>
>> >> Date: Saturday, November 18, 2000 3:59 PM
>> >> Subject: Re: DSM: public school prisons (sharing the SVS model, etc.)
>> >>
>> >> >from a parents perspective, I think this list is condescending. Wish
we
>> >> >could be as enlightened as you all.
>> >> >Reeny
>> >> >
>> >> .
>> >
>> >--
>> >"Weirdness abounds and shatters our illusion of order. Heh-heh. All
the
>> >dust is being blown out from under the carpet. Wonderful stuff!"
>> >
>> > Wanda Hamilton-Quinn
>> >
>> >
>> >
>
>--
>"Weirdness abounds and shatters our illusion of order. Heh-heh. All the
>dust is being blown out from under the carpet. Wonderful stuff!"
>
> Wanda Hamilton-Quinn
>
>
>



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