Re: DSM: public school prisons (sharing the SVS model, etc.)


Rick Stansberger (rickstan@zianet.com)
Sat, 18 Nov 2000 20:58:04 -0700


Wow! Both barrels and the derringer in her boot! I stand obliterated! (grin)
Rick

"Dawn F. Harkness" wrote:

> Rick, I object to your characterization of my post. You'll note that I
> did not growl, snarl or snap. (Is that your way of calling me a dog? If
> so, you are such a pig!) Since you obviously do not know me personally, I
> feel compelled to inform you: I have no goon squads, and I am among the
> least "haughty" people I know. . Of course, "haughty" is among the
> traditional put downs wimpy guys put on intelligent educated women, so maybe
> that explains your use of the word. Am I edgy and opinionated? Yes. A
> little brighter than the average bear, probably. But haughty? Sorry, in
> the non-sexist context of the word, you've got the wrong woman.
>
> I have tremendous empathy for all kinds of folks, but I have no empathy for
> those who make obnoxious remarks inferring condescension on the part of a
> woman I know who was making an honest attempt to answer a question regarding
> why parents enrolled their kids in SVS. If Reeny wanted to be treated with
> respect, she should have accorded it to Mimsy instead of the flippant
> sarcastic remark she posted to this discussion forum without any explanation
> for why she said it. I will probably always take umbrage with folks for
> pulling that kind of verbal cheap shot. I think it is funny how they always
> seem to be able to dish it out but can't seem to take it. Bummer for them.
>
> FYI, I intend to help bring about the SVM revolution through strictly legal
> means using my own quirky skill set to advance my own civil rights agenda.
> One of my favorite lawyers, Gandhi, taught that non-violence does not mean
> non-confrontational. I am eternally thankful that my contribution to the
> SVM revolution won't have to depend on my ability to persuade the masses of
> the ill-informed, just some well placed folks like judges and legislators.
> You can spend your time trying to gently enlighten everyone else. Knock
> yourself out. That's your choice. Be glad you live in a place where you
> can make that choice and the State doesn't make it for you. I'm also glad I
> live in a place where I can speak my mind whether anyone likes it or not and
> I don't have to conform my expressions to appease the politeness police. I
> don't care if I win Miss Congeniality in your book, because you aren't
> exactly anywhere in the running for my award for brightest bulb in the
> chandelier. Therefore, I suggest you stick to criticizing exactly what I
> say rather than your fantasies about how you think I am saying it. In the
> future, I'll do the same for you.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rick Stansberger <rickstan@zianet.com>
> To: discuss-sudbury-model@aramis.sudval.org
> <discuss-sudbury-model@aramis.sudval.org>
> Date: Saturday, November 18, 2000 8:45 PM
> Subject: Re: DSM: public school prisons (sharing the SVS model, etc.)
>
> >"Growl! Snarl! Snap!" Come on, Dawn, be cool. Unless you are the proud
> >owner of a secret police force and several thousand goon squads, you aren't
> >going to further the SVM revolution by being haughty. Folks need
> >persuading. That takes a bit of empathy.
> >
> >Reeny, I'm sorry if Mimsy's and my exchange seemed stuck-up to you. It
> >actually comes from a desire to understand where the parents of our kids
> are
> >coming from so we can meet them at that level. It's the exact opposite of
> >superior and standoffish.
> >
> >Rick
> >
> >"Dawn F. Harkness" wrote:
> >
> >> Believe me, I wish you could be enlightened too.
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: isamom@mindspring.com <isamom@mindspring.com>
> >> To: discuss-sudbury-model@aramis.sudval.org
> >> <discuss-sudbury-model@aramis.sudval.org>
> >> Date: Saturday, November 18, 2000 3:59 PM
> >> Subject: Re: DSM: public school prisons (sharing the SVS model, etc.)
> >>
> >> >from a parents perspective, I think this list is condescending. Wish we
> >> >could be as enlightened as you all.
> >> >Reeny
> >> >
> >> .
> >
> >--
> >"Weirdness abounds and shatters our illusion of order. Heh-heh. All the
> >dust is being blown out from under the carpet. Wonderful stuff!"
> >
> > Wanda Hamilton-Quinn
> >
> >
> >

--
"Weirdness abounds and shatters our illusion of order.  Heh-heh.  All the
dust is being blown out from under the carpet. Wonderful stuff!"

Wanda Hamilton-Quinn



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