Re: DSM: public school prisons (sharing the SVS model, etc.)


Rick Stansberger (rickstan@zianet.com)
Tue, 14 Nov 2000 08:30:16 -0700


Thanks, Derek! This is very interesting.
Rick

The Booroobin Sudbury School wrote:

> Hi Rick,
> The only facts and figures we provide the government as a matter of course,
> are an annual breakdown of our income and expenses, together with a copy of
> our audited financial accounts; and census statistics twice a year providing
> the numbers of students enrolled. Note that it is our responsibility to
> adhere to what we said we would do in applying for, and reapplying last year
> and this year, for ongoing approval as a "School in receipt of subsidy" by
> the State government. We're waiting on the outcome right now, and it should
> be positive, of that assessment undertaken recently. The assessment
> involves an on-site inspection, and the provision of forward financial and
> enrolment projections for 3 years. Right now, we have approved funding
> until December 31, 2000, and we're budgeting for 2001, with the expectation
> that the ongoing funding will be approved. For more detailed information,
> check our web site under "school facts".
> Regards, Derek
> The Booroobin Sudbury School
> http://booroobinschool.squirrel.com.au
> Ph/fax +61 07 5499 9944
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rick Stansberger" <rickstan@zianet.com>
> To: <discuss-sudbury-model@aramis.sudval.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2000 1:28 PM
> Subject: Re: DSM: public school prisons (sharing the SVS model, etc.)
>
> > Derek,
> >
> > Tell me how you avoid the trap of evaluation? Doesn't your government ask
> for
> > all sorts of facts and figures proving that public money is generating
> student
> > success?
> >
> > Rick
> >
> > The Booroobin Sudbury School wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Rick,
> > > Publicly funded SVM Schools do exist. Even though we're in Australia,
> and
> > > all independent Schools can apply for public funding, and most, if not
> all
> > > do, and receive it, the principles and philosophy can be implemented,
> > > without compromising the essential elements. We believe that it is a
> right
> > > and only
> > > equitable for Students in independent Schools to be funded in the same
> way
> > > as they are in State run Schools. Accountability for the use of public
> > > moneys follows. In fact, we're generally more accountable, because we
> have
> > > to satisfy Students, and Staff, then our Assembly, the Australian
> Securities
> > > and Investment Commission, which oversees the operation of companies,
> and
> > > then separately, the State and Federal Governments in different ways and
> > > forms. State run schools don't have the same level of accountability.
> In
> > > fact, I'd be happy to compare how we use of our income and how State run
> > > Schools use theirs.
> > > Regards, Derek
> > > The Booroobin Sudbury School
> > > http://booroobinschool.squirrel.com.au
> > > Ph/fax +61 07 5499 9944
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Rick Stansberger" <rickstan@zianet.com>
> > > To: <discuss-sudbury-model@aramis.sudval.org>
> > > Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2000 6:55 AM
> > > Subject: Re: DSM: public school prisons (sharing the SVS model, etc.)
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Robert Swanson wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Absolutely (see Bruce's statement below), Sudbury is such a
> different
> > > > > paradigm that this round peg won't fit into the square hole of
> public or
> > > > > institutional education.
> > > >
> > > > I respecfully disagree. The only thing that makes public education
> public
> > > > education is its source of funding: the public pays for it through
> taxes.
> > > > Everything else is just a question of method. For instance, you can
> have
> > > public
> > > > schools that aren't compulsory. You can have public Waldorf or
> Montessori
> > > > schools. Why not? The notion of freedom is antithetical to the
> current
> > > factory
> > > > model (which you can find in both public and private schools), but you
> can
> > > have
> > > > freedom in a publicly funded institution. Look at recreation centers.
> > > > Tax-funded sudschools are possible. It would just take incredible
> > > restraint on
> > > > the part of legislators raising the money and bureaucrats doling it
> out.
> > > They
> > > > would have to lay off notions like "accountability," and trust the
> > > parents,
> > > > students and staff to run the individual buildings. A highly unlikely
> > > situation,
> > > > I admit, but theoretically possible.
> > > >
> > > > Rick
> > > >
> > > >
> >
> > --
> > "Weirdness abounds and shatters our illusion of order. Heh-heh. All the
> > dust is being blown out from under the carpet. Wonderful stuff!"
> >
> > Wanda Hamilton-Quinn
> >
> >
> >

--
"Weirdness abounds and shatters our illusion of order.  Heh-heh.  All the
dust is being blown out from under the carpet. Wonderful stuff!"

Wanda Hamilton-Quinn



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