Re: DSM: intellect

Robert Swanson (
Mon, 13 Nov 2000 22:36:22 -0800

Interesting discussion (see below). "Heart" and "intellect" are not really
separate topics except as intellect relegates them to confuse the issue. The
question of intelligence is one of integrity. The body must function with
the environment. Emotions must produce di sire to coordinate function for
survival. Intellect must discern options objectively that the better option
is available. Intuition allows automatic decisions so that mental energy can
focus on creativity. Thus, when integrated, this system functions easily,
for survival first, and for creativity second, a beautifully higher brain
trait of humanity.

Focus of thought to intellect is certainly a control measure. it takes
control apart from conscious connection with the
environment-emotions-survival-creativity. As an intellectual society, nature
disintegrates. Natural intelligence is lost. Substituted is this endless
if-then statement for what SHOULD be. Alas, intellect thought has not
changed the nature of the universe.

How to exit the world of intellect? Joseph Pearce discovered a model with an
open heart. Another method? Speak honestly from an emotional basis until
nature is rediscovered. Self is found not as controlling thought as SHOULDS,
but as feeling-intuition-environment-intellect-creativity, all from a base
of joy, adventure and connectedness.

Note that there is a packet of brian cells in the heart, and there are more
brain cells in the abdomen than in the spinal cord according to a recent
news announcement, conjectured to be intuition.

And where is the experience of Holy Guidance? I bet it follows after mental
focus has turned to creativity.

By the way, freedom, as an idea, disappears as we escape from the box of
intellect and SHOULDS. If I don't contain my thoughts, who can? Physically,
we are either challenged or are at ease. It is not a matter of "freedom".


on 11/6/00 3:47 PM, Holly L McHaelen at wrote:

> Hi John,
> I'm thinking that perhaps we were given "heart" so that we could overcome
> our intellect, rather than the reverse. It seems to me that intellectual
> functioning uninformed by "heart" is more like "computing" than thinking,
> and that little that is exciting or worthwhile in human achievement or
> relationships would take place without more heart than intellect.
> With regard to instinct, I'm trying to maintain and regenerate mine.
> "Rising above" it has only gotten me into dangerous situations, not the
> least of which involved becoming dangerously detached from my self and my
> passion! I value tremendously that SVM as I interpret it has a lot to
> do with tapping into our most natural states (isn't one of the most basic
> instincts to be *free*? Sure, food or sex are touted as the most basic
> drives, but If you put a "wild animal" in a cage s/he is not apt to be
> very interested in either).
> With regard to fear, I'm with you that it's something to transcend, but I
> believe the avenue is through love rather than logic. What comforts a
> child awakening from a nightmare?
> Thanks,
> Holly McHaelen
> On Mon, 06 Nov 2000 10:44:45 -0800 John Axtell <>
> writes:
>> I also think it is important to recognize that the "heart" is an
>> inappropriate, in my opinion, word to use for whatever it is that we
> may be
>> discussing. Intellect is given to us so that we can overcome the
> "heart" response which is
>> usually based on emotion rather than logic. I believe the key
> relationship is between
>> the mind of an individual and the Holy Spirit.
>> Most decisions based on "heart" turn out to be rather dysfunctional.
>> The mind was given to man so that he could rise above habit, instinct
> (which is
>> needed for most critical learning) and primordial fear.
>> John Axtell

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