Re: DSM: public school prisons (sharing the SVS model, etc.)

Rick Stansberger (
Mon, 13 Nov 2000 20:28:16 -0700


Tell me how you avoid the trap of evaluation? Doesn't your government ask for
all sorts of facts and figures proving that public money is generating student


The Booroobin Sudbury School wrote:

> Hi Rick,
> Publicly funded SVM Schools do exist. Even though we're in Australia, and
> all independent Schools can apply for public funding, and most, if not all
> do, and receive it, the principles and philosophy can be implemented,
> without compromising the essential elements. We believe that it is a right
> and only
> equitable for Students in independent Schools to be funded in the same way
> as they are in State run Schools. Accountability for the use of public
> moneys follows. In fact, we're generally more accountable, because we have
> to satisfy Students, and Staff, then our Assembly, the Australian Securities
> and Investment Commission, which oversees the operation of companies, and
> then separately, the State and Federal Governments in different ways and
> forms. State run schools don't have the same level of accountability. In
> fact, I'd be happy to compare how we use of our income and how State run
> Schools use theirs.
> Regards, Derek
> The Booroobin Sudbury School
> Ph/fax +61 07 5499 9944
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rick Stansberger" <>
> To: <>
> Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2000 6:55 AM
> Subject: Re: DSM: public school prisons (sharing the SVS model, etc.)
> >
> >
> > Robert Swanson wrote:
> >
> > > Absolutely (see Bruce's statement below), Sudbury is such a different
> > > paradigm that this round peg won't fit into the square hole of public or
> > > institutional education.
> >
> > I respecfully disagree. The only thing that makes public education public
> > education is its source of funding: the public pays for it through taxes.
> > Everything else is just a question of method. For instance, you can have
> public
> > schools that aren't compulsory. You can have public Waldorf or Montessori
> > schools. Why not? The notion of freedom is antithetical to the current
> factory
> > model (which you can find in both public and private schools), but you can
> have
> > freedom in a publicly funded institution. Look at recreation centers.
> > Tax-funded sudschools are possible. It would just take incredible
> restraint on
> > the part of legislators raising the money and bureaucrats doling it out.
> They
> > would have to lay off notions like "accountability," and trust the
> parents,
> > students and staff to run the individual buildings. A highly unlikely
> situation,
> > I admit, but theoretically possible.
> >
> > Rick
> >
> >

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