DSM: BOUNCE discuss-sudbury-model@sudval.org: Non-member submission from ["Dawn F. Harkness" <dawn@harkness.net>] (fwd)

Scott Gray (sdg@aramis.sudval.org)
Wed, 8 Nov 2000 15:02:27 -0500 (EST)

--Scott David Gray
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From: "Dawn F. Harkness" <dawn@harkness.net>
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Subject: Re: DSM: Sharing the SVS model
Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 13:19:15 -0500
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I know you need to believe this because, how else could you live with
yourself? Think about it. How else could you go to work each day and
collect your paycheck, benefits, and live with yourself if you had to
abandon whatever misguided sense of mission you think you have to mold the
next generation if you accepted the fact that you are the enemy. What would
life mean to you had to accept that not only are you the enemy but you're
just a cog in a colossal machine which incarcerates and oppresses children?

You may kid yourself and maybe even some of your "students", but you will
fool no one who has had the benefit of watching children grow up as free
citizens. It is clear that you actually believe that the kids in your class
are free and are treated with respect by you so much so that they would
actually choose to attend your class by their own free will as if they
actually had a choice in the matter. So I offer you this challenge. On a
beautiful spring day when you have scheduled a test, give your "students"
the option to leave the institution to go where they want, and do whatever
they want without any penalty whatsoever. We all know, your class would
empty out in a heartbeat. Unfortunately, we also know you don't have the
power to offer them real freedom, because if you actually took this
challenge, you would be fired in the next heartbeat, thereby underscoring
the undeniable fact that you are nothing more than a cog in this oppressive

Just as some slave owners were "nicer" than others, you may fall into that
category of "teacher" who is perceived as nicer than the sadists of your
profession. But make no mistake about this. In my opinion, you are little
more than a guard of children who have been incarcerated by the state
through no fault of their own.

Dawn Harkness

-----Original Message-----
From: Avenfeliz1@aol.com <Avenfeliz1@aol.com>
To: discuss-sudbury-model@aramis.sudval.org
Date: Wednesday, November 08, 2000 8:09 AM
Subject: Re: DSM: Sharing the SVS model

>In a message dated 11/7/00 10:34:03 AM Mountain Standard Time,
>huli_madrid@yahoo.com writes:
><< Teachers would be
> authentic with other teachers and with their students.
> Kids would have a real say in how the school is run.
> Kids wouldn't shirk their studies because they would >>
>I work in the public school system. We're not the enemy. Contrary to
>belief, there are some of us who don't believe in choosing for our
> Yes, we do have to be "up front" with the administration, faculty and
>parents. And, that does create problems for us. Given the lack of say about
>policy in our system, we have great limitations. But giving the students
>freedom and respect for fifty minutes is better than not giving them any at
>all. These wonderful beings literally soak it up as though it were the
>drop of water in the desert and make wonderful use of it. The best part of
>it is, that they can also take it with them to their next class with a
>control freak of an instructor, and use it there in an assertive manner.
>Kathleen Richardson

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