DSM: Re: Re: San Tunstall <tunstall@MIT.EDU> sent this to the list


Brad Withers (spungulas@odyssey.net)
Wed, 25 Aug 1999 02:41:39 -0400


Rather than repeat all of the below, I shall say: I am in complete
agreement and Go Joe!
:o) Brad
-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Jackson <shoeless@erols.com>
To: discuss-sudbury-model@sudval.org <discuss-sudbury-model@sudval.org>
Date: Wednesday, August 25, 1999 1:45 AM
Subject: DSM: Re: San Tunstall <tunstall@MIT.EDU> sent this to the list

>
>>Paul Peterson,
>>Director of Harvard's Program on Education Policy and Governance. He
called
>>schools such as AVS "alarming" and said "No anthropologist anywhere has
>>found a society which would say 'The children shall decide what they want
>>to do.' Everybody has expectations for their children that are rooted in
>>the cultural traditions of that society." He also claimed that children,
>>like everyone else, will take the path of least resistance if not forced
to
>>do things (such as take difficult classes).
>>
>>Comments?
>
>
>Sure - that's really funny. Four statements that don't relate to each
>other:
>
>1: "alarming" - I find Peterson's job title alarming, but probably not as
>alarming as his assistant's.
>
>2: "No anthropologist anywhere has found a society which would say 'The
>children shall decide what they want to do.'" - So in addition to knowing
>about all of the educational policy and governance, he has personally
talked
>to all the anthropologists in the world, which is interesting, because I
>happen to have talked to all of the ornithologists in the world, and none
of
>them have found any birds who think that Peterson is not a total idiot.
>
>3: "Everybody has expectations for their children that are rooted in the
>cultural traditions of that society." - and we all know that expectations
>always help people, and that a parent's expectations of their children
>should be the prime determinate of their life path.
>
>4: "children, like everyone else, will take the path of least resistance if
>not forced to do things" - Did he really say, in effect, that everybody
>always takes the path of least resistance? That's beautiful. Why is it
>that everyone knows that humans almost never take the path of least
>resistance, and yet some guy who got a phd out of a gumball machine can
>spout it like it's fact, like his personal views of humankind are somehow
>science?
>
>But you know what's even funnier is that every single kid in our school
>knows more about learning than all of the blowhard experts in every ivory
>league school on the east coast.
>
>Yep.
>
>-Joe shoeless@erols.com
>*****
>Visit Fairhaven School's website at
>www.fairhavenschool.com
>
>



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