Re: DSM: shooting in Oregon

Jonathan Dallwitz (
Sun, 24 May 1998 17:33:27 +1030

Sandy, thanks for sharing your family letter with us, I found it very
moving. I was unaware of this event (I'm in Australia) until I read your
post. (By the way, can anyone point me to a reliable and well balanced news
source on the web so I can read more about it?) One thing: I think these
sort of actions ARE a cry for help, AS WELL as a "desperate attempt to save
themselves, to fight back". Thank you again,

PS One small question, what is a "grtf school"? Please excuse my ignorance,
new to this list.

>Dear Discuss Sudbury Model folks,
>I am forwarding a letter I e-mailed to my family the night of the school
>shooting in Oregon for two reasons: First, I could not help but see that in
>all the recent shootings by kids, the common denominator seems to be grtf

>Sandy Murphy
>Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 03:46:18
>>To: murphy.fam@
>>From: sandra murphy <>
>>Subject: shooting in Oregon
>>Dear Family,

>Just to be clear, I DO NOT CONDONE FOR A MINUTE what they have done, nor is
>it possible to overstate the pain of the victims and their families. I am
>simply trying to share my take on the "Why". This is not a "cry for help" ,
>it is a desperate attempt to save themselves, to fight back: they are
>fighting to hang onto their existence in the only way they can. They have
>been abused and debased in a hundred different ways, and feel that there is
>no one in the world they can trust and who will help them. They feel backed
>up against the wall with more pain coming, and NO WAY OUT.

>>Babies are always welcome.
>>Children are always cherished.
>>Adults are allowed to make mistakes.
>>It's OK to get mad, but it's not OK to STAY mad.
>>No matter what your age, you will be treated with respect and dignity.
>>Love one another.